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Hi, I'm trying to improve my guitar playing by learning theory and sight reading. Does anyone know if it's appropriate to beam two semiquavers together in x/4 time? (Aka when the beat is a crotchet. I'm in 3/4 time to be specific.) I know you should beam them when they make up one whole beat or one whole group (or bar subdivision) with other semiquavers or quavers, but I'm not sure if there are any other scenarios in which they should be beamed and the book isn't that clear.
The bar goes like this (in 3/4): dotted crotchet, semiquaver, semiquaver, crotchet.
So the semiquavers only last a half beat together, not a full beat, and there aren't any adjacent notes that can be beamed. But the semiquavers just look like they should be beamed! What's correct here?
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Yes, I would beam them.
I just entered this pattern into BIAB using a 3/4 style, and BIAB beamed them.
There is a general rule that one does not beam over the middle of a bar, but that doesn't apply here. Go ahead and beam them. It looks better, and you said this is for sight-reading, where making the notation look good is half the battle.
For anyone reading who is not in England, a crochet is a quarter note, and a semiquaver is a 16th note.
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Hi Terrecnce,
Welcome to the forum.
Yes, those would be beamed.
Many years ago, I read a book by Gardner Read called 'Music Notation', it's one of the most fascinating books I've ever taken the time to sit down with. Your local library might have it.
Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
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For anyone reading who is not in England, a crochet is a quarter note, and a semiquaver is a 16th note.
For a minute there I thought I had a stroke and couldn't read any more. LOL. I had no idea what he was asking!
My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
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I've got a dollar for anyone who can create a BiaB song with appropriate lyrics titled:
hemidemisemiquaver
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I've got a dollar for anyone who can create a BiaB song with appropriate lyrics titled: hemidemisemiquaver Well, here are some lyrics: Hemi-demi-semi-quaverWhen I was taking music lessons My teacher sat me down And looking at what I'd written She told me with a frown You've gotten all your notation wrong It's really such a mess These flags and beams and dotted notes Are unreadable ugliness! Your dots are splots; those flags adrift Beams and stems are disconnected But all these note durations Must be first to be corrected. You've written this in eighth notes What you should have done in quavers These quarters ought be crotchets You're a terrible engraver! That whole note? Try a semi-breve; And for a half note, write a minimum. What was good enough for Renaissance We still use for notating rhythm! In tears I watched her tear apart My happy little song; But even at that tender age I knew that it was wrong To use such long words for little dots Is archaic and antique Combining the worst of languages Both Latin, French and Greek And to this day, I only ask You do this simple favor When you see a sixty-fourth note Don't say hemidemisemiquaver!
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David, By any chance was the lyrics written with the medley of "Shimmy, Shimmy, Ko-Ko Bop" in mind? The lyrics match the recording almost perfectly. +++ Song Video +++ 
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By any chance was the lyrics written with the medley of "Shimmy, Shimmy, Ko-Ko Bop" in mind? The lyrics match the recording almost perfectly. +++ Song Video +++ Darn, now I've got that earworm stuck in my head. Although as a kid, I misremembered the words as "Shimmy, Shimmy Co-Co-Puffs". But no - I was just channeling my inner Dr. Seuss. 
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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