Hi to every one again, I think I'm finaly getting to grips with this problem of the program crashing, sometime ago I downloaded a VST plug in from Quik Quaks called "Up Stereo" which is a stereo image enhancer this was the latest version according to there web site. I now know that everytime this plug in is active the programe instantly crashes. I have now downloaded the earlier version of the plug in and this works fine, I have tried to contact Quik Quaks but no response so far. I just wondered if anyone else has come across this plug in before and had the same problems.