Originally Posted By: bowlesj
Originally Posted By: MarioD
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The Triple Play comes with a number of included sounds that may sound better then either the SFZ or Coyote. I have found that woodwinds, brass, and guitars do not sound real in these inexpensive sound sources. You can help them by learning what articulations the instrument has and what MIDI controller will work that emulation but the better sound sources have those articulations already available, i.e. things like growl for sax and horns, staccato, real legato,


Thanks MarioD. Very helpful. What you wrote in the quote above leads to some questions.

Is it likely that the Triple Play sounds can be used by BIAB?

Since I do not have the Triple Play nor do I record in BiaB this is just my best guess. Yes, you should be able to use the Triple Play VSTis in BiaB. Select triple Play as your input and the VSTi as your output and all should be good.

If yes would this be done via the plug in feature BIAB has which is described in this Using VST Plugins with Band-in-a-Box video? I did a Google search "using fishman triple play midi GUITAR controller plugins" and found only this one video The Fishman Tripleplay VST Plugin. I am taking a wild guess that these companies write plugins so they get more sales and these plugins have special install or use instructions. In my case the use would probably be during BIAB backing track output at a live jam. However lately I create backing track .wav files which are used mostly in Audacity since Jazz Jams Club members don't want to spend a lot of money. Each member participating in a song sends their track out to all other members who are participating and this way each participant can mix whatever way they want. So the plug in would mostly be used to simulate the melody meaning eventually a member will replace the BIAB melody with their playing the melody. However some songs might have a backing track record lift in the soloists track (a midi track). If it sounds good they may want to keep it.

The reason Triple Play, East West, and others are making VSTis for MIDI guitars is that each company is optimizing those VSTi presets for either specific models, like Triple Play, or for guitar MIDI controllers in general. Many soft synths like Kontakt are optimized for keyboard controllers but some third party presets are optimized for other controllers. In fact I have to go into the guts of Kontakt on some presets in order to use my wind controller.


I just went back to the Fishman TriplePlay Wireless MIDI Guitar Controller website. Other than mentioning there is a VST this is all I found.
--The triple play Works with any music software that accepts class-compliant MIDI

This BIAB forum thread on using the Fishman Triple Play with BIAB may be interesting.


I think once you get Triple Play you will love it. MIDI guitar controllers can open up a whole new world for you. There is a learning curve, first off you have to set up the controller for your playing style and that is a hit and miss situation, but after that is it a lot of fun. My guess is that afer you get it you will start using it in a DAW where you have a lot more options.

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