Hello, something's going wrong with me. After installing the update I only have 17 new real tracks, of which no sound is available (see pic) . The same under the 32bit version. What to do? https://www.dropbox.com/s/jj9vgbtsxev2yvx/biab.JPG?dl=0
How many were you expecting? Did you install your package over your previous BIAB, or was this a new install?
My understanding is you get fairly limited RealTrack content in the MegaPak (as well as the ProPak), versus the UltraPak which includes over 2700 RealTracks. They significantly upped the number you get in 2018 (from 2017), but it looks like maybe only a handful more with 2019. Yes, you get the program, but you only get 500 RT's (which will be a collection from over the past 11 years from when RealTracks were first introduced).
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The image that you show is not a list of Realtracks. It's a list of styles.
To view the Realtracks that have been installed, it's necessary to go into Realtrack picker (IMAGE 1, below), not Stylepicker, and then sort by "Set". Once sorted by "Set" (IMAGE 2), new Realtracks are those that have Set numbers 301-328.
If your view is different from mine, use CTRL+T to switch between standard and full-screen views.
it is 100% crap that they advertise on youtube about the latest package, and then say "this was made using the ultra pak bla bla bla" what they dont tell you is that this can ONLY be made with the Ultra pack. the videos therefore need to say "Band in a box, ULTRA PACK 2020" Because all the other 2020 offerings absolutely suck. Im serious, the 79 dollar version that I had, and the 160 version "mega" pack, show no difference what-so-ever. I just handed them over 240 dollars total at this point. and literally, one cant tell the difference between the 79 dollar one and the one doubled in price.
WHY USE TRICKERY!? they could just do what Reason from Propellerhead does. It tells you what "reason essentials" is, fully. If you want that, youll buy that. Protools as well. you get what you paid for. that I dont mind. But PG music is sending false imaging along site "fine print" advertising, to rip you off.
At this point, I am not seeing buying their "ultra pack" for fear that the reality is, the "ultra pack" REQUIRES that you get that 49 pack along WITH it, to do all the crap youre seeing on yourube.. making the program too expensive..
Just tell me what I am buying. How do you know I wont like what I am getting?
I didnt expect to get it all...BUT A PORTION of it (half of it, since Im paying half the price of an ultra pack) would have been nice, but clearly you dont get that. I wish this were not software so I could sent them the crap back..
Great product!!!1 [*****] poor execution. Like burger king. Like Pizza hut.
khan flo mah, firstly, welcome. Sorry that you weren't able to identify what is provided with each of the product paks.
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Im serious, the 79 dollar version that I had, and the 160 version "mega" pack, show no difference what-so-ever.
That information is available on the PG Music Website, where it explains the differences between the products. It also appears to clearly show the difference between the Pro Pak and the Mega Pak, - as well as the Ultra Pak, which has significantly more content.
I'm not sure how any statement that a product that was made with a certain Pak could be misconstrued that the identical result could be achieved with a lesser content Pak.
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MAN PLEASE!!!! if someone is new to your product, you cant just say "pack 3" and 200 other this and that, and people are supposed to figure out your jargon. front page says NEW 2020 BIAB. Loops with style pak 1 Loops with style pak 2.
that for example is right on the frint page under the headline of BIAB2020
what that ACTUALLY is, is a separate pack you can buy. Not something thats somehow what you get when you buy biab 2020
it reads thusly:
Band-in-a-Box® 2020 & New Add-ons!
50+ New Features! Learn more: Windows | Mac 202 New RealTracks!(when you get biab2020?) Listen to demos: Windows | Mac NEW! Xtra Styles PAK 9 for Windows and Mac 2020 and higher. NEW! Loops-with-Style PAK 2 for Windows and Mac 2020 and higher. Xtra Styles PAK 8 for Windows and Mac 2019 and higher. Loops-with-Style PAK 1 for Windows and Mac 2019 and higher.
which are the "add ons" and which are biab 2020?
WHAT IS biab 2020? the mega pak? the ultra pack? WHAT got upgraded?
If a man who has the last 160 dollar version, gets the "upgrade" to this 160 dollar version of 2020, what can he hope to see that he didnt have before? where is that on the front page? anywhere? this is disastrous marketing.. Bait and switch bogus bulshevik
lets say if I have the mega pak (pak btw implies a set of something) If I have the mega pak and want to get the ultra pak, how much am I paying? LESS right? Wrong...
You gotta pay the full price as if you dont have any version at all..
how about ala cart? can I just buy a pac, kinda like a package of refills for Propellerhead reason? Or loops for fruityloops?
yes...but whats in them? you really cant tell.. not really.
because you see the videos on youtube, AS WELL as the demos are including OTHER packs instead of using purely what youre getting.
the only people that will side with you are people that have the ultra pack..
I am a cakewalk/ Protools/Reason/fruityloops user. I have used them all over the years.
So my mocking this disaster is not without merit.
I was considering leaving Propellerhead, and using BIAB, and giving up with the whole self made production. I was going to marry the two, by taking parts played by BIAB and mix it with my own playing, and do unique thins with Reason 7.
but this is 100% stupidity on BIAB part. Every other program Ive ever used, over 30 years, it was clear as rain what I was buying. ONLINE and before the internet.
So youre not talking to someone that doesnt know. I was making unique synth sounds with CZ101's in the 80s. My brother had a moog I learned on as a kid. So when I call this behavior crazy, I mean it.
khan flo mah (if that is your real name?) , let me give you a clue. Never a good idea to show up for the first time and crap all over the place. Thankfully, this is a forgiving place of fellow users. So to address your point, you do know you have a 30 day full refund if you don't like the product. Pretty simple, contact the company and get your money back.
And more to your point, we already recognize the marketing options can be confusing if you don't ask questions in advance.
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I can feel his pain. I have said in the past that PGMusic's package labeling is very confusing, especially to someone who has used other music software. In other music software Pro is the top of the line NOT and entry point!
I would relabel these products: 1-BiaB Pro to BiaB lite 2-BiaB Mega to BiaB Intermediate 3-BiaB Ultra to BiaB Pro 4-BiaB Audiofile - to Biab Pro Audiofile. 5-BiaB Ultra + to BiaB Pro Upgrade.
I would drop all of the extra stuff and add it to the Ultra Pak (my Pro Pak).
But I do concur that coming in and (rhymes with witching but with a capitol B) is not a very polite thing to do and puts off many here who would be glad to help.
Last but not least khan flo mah why not contact PGMusic and explain what has happened. I have found them to be very accommodating.
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I'm sorry your disappointed with your purchase and irritated with how the products are marketed. However, this is a user forum so there is nothing we fellow users can do to address the issues you've brought up. We can and do empathize with your frustration. I sincerely hope you will take advantage of the thirty guarantee to exercise and evaluate the product and not let your frustration prevent you from learning about this amazing musical tool.
RealTracks are available +++ in sets +++ and purchasing RealTrack sets is one way to add additional content to your existing MegaPAK collection. However, it is not the most cost efficient way to add additional content.
The most cost efficient way to add content when you already have the ProPAK or MegaPAK is to upgrade your package when there is a new program release. Typically a new Windows program is released each December and a new Macintosh program is released each June. All operating specific packages are substantially discounted for the new release. There normally also is an opportunity to update just your program to the new release.
New content is added to each package with each release so even if you stay with the MegaPAK you can upgrade the program and you will also receive the added content.
May I suggest you take time to write an email to sales@pgmusic.com expressing your frustration and objections. There is a much better chance of things changing by writing to PG Music sales than venting here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
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Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
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These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
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This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
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-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
Playable RealTracks Set 4
RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
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FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
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XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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, let me give you a clue. Never a good idea to show up for the first time and crap all over the place. Thankfully, this is a forgiving place of fellow users. So to address your point, you do know you have a 30 day full refund if you don't like the product. Pretty simple, contact the company and get your money back. 
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