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Ray,
Very unusual and fun musical resolution, seems like it is going up, up the ladder, but never ending the climb. Dark, sure but in elegant way. I like the fact that you are training your voice! I think it can still be a notch louder. I am bad with locating specific issues, but the version I think sounds best overall is named: "AugustusJcd". Thank you for sharing!
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Hi Ray ...
In my opinion, using these almost 73 year-old ears, it still sounds a bit thin on the lower end EQs (I'm guessing in the 40hz to 60hz range). If the bass had a little more punch, I think it would carry the song somewhat better and give it some extra "drive" for a medium tempo alt rock song.
Alan Thanks for the kind words and perspective. Yes, the bottom end is a little empty..the WARMER mix tried to fill that with the bottom end of the guitars and bass. I think it went a little too far and became a little muddy without the punch. I've done a subsequent mix that, along with adding some more energy to the vocals in the chorus, fills in the bottom end a little with a low end synth. I've yet to spend time listening to the mix to decide whether or not I should abandon it there. Thanks again.
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We are down with the Hiroshima Day mix. We listened on living room system with the subs. It filled the room in a good way and we felt center stage in front of a kick a$s hard rock band. We just kicked back, turned it up, and listened to the "totality" of the song - like it had just popped up on one of our Apple Music radio stations and we knew nothing about the production. From that perspective it sounded really good. Reference songs, a zillion opinions...yep it all helps and in particular from the well informed (without them I would've bailed years ago  ). But as I learn more about this production thing, even when narrowed down to a specific genre, it is such a huge tent. Too much this, too little that, right or wrong, ad infinitum. It makes my head spin. And as Al alluded to it's never finished...just abandoned. Pardon the old phart ramble. Bud Thank you Bud, A good ramble is always the best preamble. It seems the consensus is the the Hiroshima Day Mix, (fj, you two, Al, Misha), and I'm with that too. I was being nudged to "fill the gaps" sonically & in the arrangement at another place and followed through on the reccos to hear the result. That's the Warmer mix. I can hear, in my head, a slightly glassy reverb of a mastered version and that'll need some of the fragile top end and space of the consensus version. I'll get tired of trying soon enough, do something spontaneously and send it for mastering before living with it long enough and will then wear the results...it's almost always that way with me.
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Ray,
Very unusual and fun musical resolution, seems like it is going up, up the ladder, but never ending the climb. Dark, sure but in elegant way. I like the fact that you are training your voice! I think it can still be a notch louder. I am bad with locating specific issues, but the version I think sounds best overall is named: "AugustusJcd". Thank you for sharing!
Misha. Misha, Thanks. I was roundly abused by someone fairly recently for not following the "resolution" rules. That didn't harden my heart but it did reinforce my thoughts that implying resolution and then denying it creates tension and defies expectation. I'd love to write a well resolved song, I'd love to write a love song, I'd love to write a happy song but it seems my inclination is to aim for the tense or melancholy. My voice? ha, the tool I've been left with it seems...so I've had to run is over the strop so that it's sharp enough to not cut me.
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I listened to the two new mixes.
I like the HD mix. Seems to bring the drums up a bit (to a good place) compared to V2. And the bass sits better in the HD (beefier). AND...the vocal sits best in the HD mix (I think)...it has a clarity (brightness?) yet sits "down in the mix" the way a Rock vocal should. It has a "presence".
Guitars sound great.
Nice adjustments. Thanks fj, I've done a little more due to comments elsewhere but would appreciate you listening to this latest one & letting me know if I've headed down the wrong path. I listened to the WARMER? version. The mix is REALLY well balanced. The bass is sounding good. The lack of reverb on the vocals made them "come out of the mix" - set them apart (not in a good way) - so I view that as the only "mistake".
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I really like the vibe you've captured!! Vocal is a bit soft, but a really cool tune!! Take care. Greg
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It sounds good. Great music. I'm not sure what is BIAB and what is you playing, which is a good thing. Nice catchy tune. Good dance song.
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It sounds good. Great music. I'm not sure what is BIAB and what is you playing, which is a good thing. Nice catchy tune. Good dance song. BIAB components are drums and the high synth.
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