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Alan,
you sound like my 30-something year old son. There seems to be a new interest in jazz among his crowd, but not traditional jazz as you say. Most of what he likes is odd time signature stuff. He would like to use BIAB for its in-depth focus on music theory, but as soon as he tries to choose a time signature that isn't 4/4, and the program croaks, he gives up.

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Pat

I can only sympathise with your son's plight re- the time signatures. Clearly BIAB is designed so that odd time signatures can be covererd as 'styles' , cramming each cycle into a bar of 4 beats.

Changing it now to a 'supported as standard' feature may be okay on paper, but how many of the other existing styles would sound good in 7/8 or 11/8 I wonder?. What you might find is that they just don't work.

Jammer has support as standard but their styles dont sound like they were designed for use in anything other than 4/4 or 3/4.

At least we would be able to import odd time signature midi pattens into the style wizard however, and that would be good to have.

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Alan

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Wow... what a bunch of old farts on this forum....

and keeping with that trend, I am coming up on 56. :-)

I haven't really found my niche with these products. My hope was to create simple backing tracks with lyrics so the wife and I could enjoy some vino, sing some tunes and play guitar. Maybe the occasional "live" performance when friends are over or at parties.

Playing drums from the time I was 10 makes it tough to accept some of the styles and I don't seem to have the free time to put into it to learn how to change them. I am an analog guy getting stuck in a digital world and kicking and screaming doesn't seem to be helping.

Looks like I will be using RB to lay down basic drum parts (via electronic drum set) and then lay down some basic acoustic guitar, possibly some bass. I can use the midi for keyboards and such. Then playback the piece with live guitar and vocals for fun.

I think that RB and BIAB have great potential for those willing to invest time to learn them. I don't think that too many people want to make that effort. For me, it's just a lack of time. But in today's culture, it seems that everyone wants instant success, with no effort, aka Guitar Hero.

Love the forum. Great tips (for us newbs, as was previously mentioned), and ideas to put into use. Looking forward to learning more.

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46 here.
primary music style - contemporary Christian
I use BB and RB as a tool for helping me create the chord structures for my original melodies and for creating backing tracks for the instruments I do not play (which is everything except voice and keyboard).

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Beagle,
I like original CC music... can you direct me to any of your songs online? I'd like to hear what you're doing

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Hi Pat, I only have a few online so far.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=704510&content=music

some of those are covers, of course, but my originals are My Savior, Reforge Me, Someday Together, Your Grace, I Can't Breathe, Samarian Sunrise, All I Need is You and the Scarborough Fair/Calvary is one I did of the PD song with my own lyrics. Oh, and Our Savior is one I cowrote but we still don't have lyrics/vocals on it yet - I'm waiting on my coauthor on that.

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Thanks for the link!
(on a related note: When you upload songs, doesn't SoundClick ask you to verify that you aren't uploading music to which you don't own the copyright?)

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actually, bottom line what it states is that you must have the right to distribute if you don't own the copyright. that means if you upload covers you're supposed to have a mechanical license before doing so.

I do have license numbers if you would like for me to show them to you.

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huh?
no, I'm not trying to be a pain or anything.. It's one of those things we all deal with when uploading files, and I am curious to know how different people deal with it. It never would have occurred to me to pay for a license, so asking this question opens new awareness of the possibilities.

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No worries, Pat. It's very difficult to understand each others intentions sometimes in a forum! No offense taken!

most licenses can be obtained from the Harry Fox Agency. that's a representative for a lot of artists. www.hfa.com
for Christian licensing, go to:
https://musicservices.org

here is an excellent resource about obtain mechanical licenses:
http://forums.christiansongwriters.org/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=12245
and another:
http://forums.christiansongwriters.org/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=11540

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