Pipeline it’s not about old guard or not wanting progress but progress with out stability is fruitless. I do appreciate the ideas and vision you and others bring to the table and also want to see things modernize. If you remember I totally agreed and echoed your vision of a redo similar to what Presonus did with kristal audio. Maybe using an open source daw.

Let’s take RB for example . What does it need? First to complete with Studio one or Reaper it needs to shed its 48 track skin and clean up the mixer view where the only tracks that show are the ones on the tracks view like ever other DAW. It needs to have the mixer moves feature brought up to the level of the automation features of other systems.

It could use a visual update and so it doesn’t look like the Powertracks it was built from very much like the early cakewalk days. But despite this it is still capable of delivering excellent results. I stopped using it not because it didn’t work but because it was resource heavy on my system and I liked a few features better in studio one. It has gotten better stability wise in my opinion. I would love to see it come all the way to where you and I envision it could be. But to just shred it and place it in a constant state of construction is not the answer, as there are people that use it every day. It needs incremental progress, that allows it to function. I would love to see parallel development of a new DAW. I think we talk about that a while back.

Case in point the plugin every time I’m they get a solid stable build the masses clamor for this feature or that feature PGM tries to add it and the next build is a train wreak. They scramble to fix it get it real close and add another feature bang the cycle starts all over. To your point a while back it should have cooked longer to start, but it didn’t.

I don’t want to stop progress just slow it down some to allow stability to catch up, lest many give up and move on. I really do appreciate what you try to do around here. You sir are a thinker, and have good vision. If I haven’t said it ,thank you !

One word of caution I offer, you come from a environment of fresh ideas that exist in the REAPER world. Rapid change. You know as well as anyone that BiaB is not Reaper. Reaper is a light weight, small footprint system that can sustain rapid development. BiaB is a complex, resource heavy old legacy code system slowly grinding forward adding multiple new features each year and every few years a major change. All this adds to the basic stability issues. Long time request don’t get handled due to new asks being implemented. PGM to its credit try hard to make all of us happy. Sometimes to hard. The plugin is one of those examples. What is in pre release beta right now is when done will be a very solid place to take a breather. Hopefully then RB can get some more love and become what we all think it can be.

Please don’t ever think you are not appreciated. New ideas and innovative thinking are vital to the future of this product. Careful implementation is also vital so that current users continue to enjoy using the product daily. Older users (old guard) want stable solid familiar function, innovative ideas thinkers want new fresh workflow based changes. Both want to make music. Both are important to PGM and both have the right to their views.
Peace to ya Brother,


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