If you have not started to use the BiaB Plugin in your workflow, these two major updates cross the tipping point of comfortably using it in your day to day workflow.
Summary of changes for DAW Plugin 2.9.41
Added: "Send MIDI Data to DAW for playing MIDI tracks" option
Added: Global sync to host button
Added: Mute and solo buttons
Fixed: Many Improved sync to DAW improvements/fixes
Fixed: Many GUI improvements/fixes
Fixed: Many RT/RD/RC/MIDI improvements/fixes
Fixed: Many MultiRiffs improvements/fixes
Added: Many Chord sheet improvements/fixes
Summary of changes for DAW Plugin 2.6.8
Fixed: Normalize, Acidize, Flat, Dry Center options.
Fixed: Drum transcription MIDI files
Fixed: Bar and Song (style changes, key sig changes, ending).
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If you have not started to use the BiaB Plugin in your workflow, these two major updates cross the tipping point of comfortably using it in your day to day workflow.
Summary of changes for DAW Plugin 2.9.41
Added: "Send MIDI Data to DAW for playing MIDI tracks" option
Added: Global sync to host button
Added: Mute and solo buttons
Fixed: Many Improved sync to DAW improvements/fixes
Fixed: Many GUI improvements/fixes
Fixed: Many RT/RD/RC/MIDI improvements/fixes
Fixed: Many MultiRiffs improvements/fixes
Added: Many Chord sheet improvements/fixes
Summary of changes for DAW Plugin 2.6.8
Fixed: Normalize, Acidize, Flat, Dry Center options.
Fixed: Drum transcription MIDI files
Fixed: Bar and Song (style changes, key sig changes, ending).
My favorite things that make for a smoooth workflow in the DAW are: 1) Acidize files (MIDI and now Audio remain in sync with tempo mapped songs) 2) Working RC for RD MIDI drum for multitrack drums via your favorite plugins. 3) RIff workflow enhancement (context based selection and bar level generate) 4) Solo and mute now work on the fly 5) Global sync make it easy to switch back and forth between audition and silent (show playing chords)
As I said a combination of many small fixes made the plugin FUN and comfortable to work with.
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Yes it is much more useable right now. Actually a pleasure to use. I did a mock up project for a friend over the weekend and was done in less than an hour.
Last edited by Rob Helms; 06/29/2008:00 AM.
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Last edited by Rob Helms; 07/07/2010:55 AM.
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Of course, we all know there are bugs in the software, and I encourage people to report them in the forum especially if they are repeatable of confirmable. This is the best way to make the software more reliable on a large base of customers. General comments like "it is broke" or "I will wait until it is perfect" don't help PGMusic or the customer base.
They use your specific input to improve the reliability and functionality of it. Here are examples of input to PGMusic that was turned around and implemented.
Significant functionality improvements in DAW Plugin build 2.12.9
Show Bar Change Settings for bar changes (red line in Part Marker) Matches BiaB now and make it easy to see where they are at if added in BiaB or the plugin.
Render of the selected region: Now you can generate on just the bars you need for additional style tracks or Extra tracks and Riff tracks (It saves time when augmenting other style tracks in your DAW song.)
"Pad Multi Riffs" and "Start Multi Riffs early/late" Now works so you can generate Riffs for specific bars in your DAW song.
(Shift) Drag Chords from Plugin Chord sheet to DAW as Markers.
Direct Input RTs Now Work! I almost forgot one of the biggies. Now you can drag guitar part in and assign your own virtual amp and have complete control over the sound.
Here is the universal standard for reporting errors: Problem: Steps to reproduce: Expected behavior: Actual behavior:
I use it all the time and PGmusic responds usually in the next release.
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It's ready for prime time and I'm ready for the loony bin
That's all I wanted to do was make music, I was doing that for lots of artist but it's a bit hard when you are sitting down with them and there is crash...crash..48 crash. And there was no VST Sync at the time for EZDrummer to create the drums how they like (and that took 10 years of nagging). So I gave up doing that and went full time trying (nagging) to make things better for Biab RealBand and create a Plugin.
So hopefully when I have recovered from it all and got my mojo back I'll get back into it, have a pleasurable creative workflow and be able stay in the zone, as the worst thing to get you out of the creative zone is FRUSTRATION !!! (and PG are past masters at that )
I just created a 80 bar 4:30 song with it today. Purely from the plugin. 16 RT tracks generated from the plugin. 2 RC RD track for multitrack drums with a drum plugin. 2 RT tracks generated with DI inputs to add my own Amp Simulators. Partial generated tracks for augmenting the chorus and bridge. Partial generated Riffs for comping a nice Intro. Changing styles and chord shots and holds. 70% of the tracks were customer selected so I ended up with the right style and feel. It was Tempo Mapped in the DAW to me performing along with a guitar, so the song follows my performance. I then add vocals and it is done. Like all software it has a few minor problems that have been formally reported to PGMusic, but there were easy workarounds to get it done. So, IMHO it is working good enough to write music.
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That’s a nice report. I’m hoping that this brings one last update this year to address a couple small bugs.
Then for version 3.0 I vote for ARA2 to sync the DAW and plugin allowing simultaneous chord/bar markers/and timing to be transferred both ways. If it had that it would be what most of us envisioned.
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They use your specific input to improve the reliability and functionality of it. Here are examples of input to PGMusic that was turned around and implemented.
Significant functionality improvements in DAW Plugin build 2.12.9
(Shift) Drag Chords from Plugin Chord sheet to DAW as Markers.
Just to keep the record straight. I am not aware of anyone asking for this? Not that it is not nice to have, but it only goes half way with achieving what is needed to accomplish what BIAB can do with its "chords Out" feature. There is no midi associated with the chords markers. We have been asking for both the chord markers AND the associated block chord midi similar to what the "chordout" feature does. Just sayin...
I asked for the midi chord track with markers but as you say with the midi notes. Adar added this as it's all done within the Plugin without having to wait for PG to implement it in BBW4. I have been asking for midi chord markers in Biab in the BB Cord Output track for decades and it was not done, so ask yourself.
Pipe, on this topic I am in full alignment with where you are driving. I am afraid that sometimes it seems us users are talking only to each other! But, having said that, I am pleased with the new chord markers feature. In this case I just wanted to push to finish the job. I know, Rob it about to jump on me. I get it Rob, lets first get this damn thing stable. So I can be patient and wait, just don't want this to be forgotten.
Well there are 2 ways you can do it 1. wait for PG to get around to to adding chord markers to the BB Chord Output track (that's been asked for ages) in BBW4 and enable it to take the function call from the Plugin. 2. Create it all in the Plugin as suggested in the first post, or you could have a Chords.txt that the Plugin uses to create the midi chords, this way the user can set any voicing they like for any chords. So it will be all done in the Plugin without waiting for PG to do it.
This is an example from Ackord Midi Chord Detector, being in notes than numbers it's more user friendly.
Code:
; This is the chord definition file.
; Here you make up which key combinations make up which chord.
; Do it for key C, and the program will automatically transpose
; it to all other keys.
; If a / (division sign) is after the note name, that means it is okay to
; have this note in the base - e g C/G. If not, it will be an
; unrecognized chord - unless another row later has this combination.
; Every line not beginning with "C" will be ignored by the program.
; Separate notes with , (comma). No spaces between notes.
; Valid notenames: C, C#, Db, D, D#, Eb, E, F, F#, Gb, G, G#, Ab, A, A#, Bb, B
C = C/,E/,G/
C = C,E,G,B/
C = C,E,G,Bb/
C = C,E,G,F#/
C = C,E,G,F/
C = C,E,G,Eb/
C = C,E,G,C#/
C add11 = C/,E,F,G
C b5 = C/,E,Gb
C+ = C/,E,G#
C11 = C/,Bb,D,E,F,G
;C11 = C/,Bb,D,F
C11 add#5 = C/,F#,Bb,D,F
C11 = C/,G,Bb,D,F
C11 add13 = C/,Bb,D,F,A
C11 b9 add13 = C/,Bb,Db,F,A
C13 = C/,Bb,D,E,A
C13 = C/,Bb,E,A
C13 = C/,G,Bb,D,E,A
C13 = C/,G,Bb,E,A
C13 add11 = C/,E,Bb,D,F,A
C13#11 = C/,E,Bb,D,F#,A
C13#11 = C/,E,G,Bb,D,F#,A
C13#11 no3 = C/,Bb,D,F#,A
C13#11 no3 = C/,G,Bb,D,F#,A
C13#9 = C/,E,Bb,D#,A
C13#9 = C/,E,G,Bb,D#,A
C13b9 = C/,E,Bb,Db,A
C13b9 = C/,E,G,Bb,Db,A
C2 = C/,D,G
C6 = C/,E,G,A
C6 no3 = C/,G,A
C6 9 = C/,E,G,A,D
C6 9 no3 = C/,G,A,D
C7 = C/,E,Bb
C7 = C/,E/,G/,Bb
C7 no3 = C/,G,Bb
C7 alt = C/,E,Bb,Db,D#
C7 alt = C/,E,G,Bb,Db,D#
C7 alt = C/,E,Gb,Bb,Db,D#
C7 alt = C/,E,G#,Bb,Db,D#
C7 alt = C/,E,Gb,G#,Bb,Db,D#
C7 alt = C/,E,Gb,G#,Bb,Db
C7 alt = C/,E,Gb,G#,Bb,D#
C7 alt = C/,E,Gb,G#,Bb
C7#5 = C/,E,G#,Bb
C7#5#9 = C/,E,G#,Bb,D#
C7#5b9 = C/,E,G#,Bb,Db
C7#9 = C/,E,Bb,D#
C7#9 = C/,E,G,Bb,D#
C7b13 = C/,E,G,Bb,Ab
C7b5 = C/,E,Gb,Bb
C7b5b13 = C/,E,Gb,Bb,Ab
C7b5#9 = C/,E,Gb,Bb,D#
C7b5b9 = C/,E,Gb,Bb,Db
C7b9 = C/,E,Bb,Db
C7b9 = C/,E,G,Bb,Db
C7b9b13 = C/,E,Bb,Db,Ab
C9 = C/,E,Bb,D
C9 = C/,E,G,Bb,D
C9 = C/,G,Bb,D
C9b13 = C/,E,Bb,D,Ab
C9b13 = C/,E,G,Bb,D,Ab
C9b13 = C/,G,Bb,D,Ab
C9#11 = C/,E,Bb,D,F#
C9#11 = C/,E,G,Bb,D,F#
C9#11 no3 = C/,Bb,D,F#
C9#11 no3 = C/,G,Bb,D,F#
C9#5 = C/,E,G#,Bb,D
C9b5 = C/,E,Gb,Bb,D
Cadd9 = C/,D,E/,G/
Cadd9 no5 = C/,D,E
Cdim = C/,Eb,Gb,A
Cm = C,Eb,G,Bb/
Cm = C/,Eb/,G/
Cm = C,Eb,G,B/
Cm = C,Eb,G,F#/
Cm = C,Eb,G,E/
Cm = C,Eb,G,Db/
Cm add11 = C/,Eb,F,G
Cm add9 = C/,D,Eb,G
Cm add9 no5 = C/,D,Eb
Cm b5 = C/,Eb,Gb
Cm b5 add11 = C/,Eb,F,Gb
Cm maj7 = C/,Eb,G/,B/
Cm maj7 no5 = C/,Eb,B
Cm no5 add11 = C/,Eb,F
Cm11 = C/,Eb,Bb,D,F
Cm11 = C/,Eb,G,Bb,D,F
Cm13 = C/,Eb,G,Bb,D,A
Cm13 = C/,Eb,G,Bb,D,F,A
Cm6 = C/,Eb,G,A
Cm6 9 = C/,Eb,G,A,D
Cm6 no5 = C/,Eb,A
Cm7 = C/,Eb,G/,Bb
Cm7 add11 = C/,Eb,G,Bb,F
Cm7 add11 no5 = C/,Eb,F,Bb
Cm7 no5 = C/,Eb,Bb
Cm7#5#9 = C/,Eb,G#,Bb,D#
Cm7#5b9 = C/,Eb,G#,Bb,Db
Cm7b5 = C/,Eb,Gb/,Bb
Cm7b5#9 = C/,Eb,Gb,Bb,D#
Cm7b5b9 = C/,Eb,Gb,Bb,Db
Cm9 = C/,Eb,Bb,D
Cm9 = C/,Eb,G,Bb,D
Cm9 no3 = C/,G,Bb,D
Cm9#11 = C/,Eb,Bb,D,F#
Cm9#11 = C/,Eb,G,Bb,D,F#
Cm9#5 = C/,Eb,G#,Bb,D
Cm9b5 = C/,Eb,Gb,Bb,D
Cmaj13 = C/,B,D,E,A
Cmaj13 = C/,B,E,A
Cmaj13 = C/,G,B,D,E,A
Cmaj13 = C/,G,B,E,A
Cmaj7 #11 = C/,E,G,B,F#
Cmaj7 #11 = C/,E,B,F#
Cmaj7 #5 = C/,E,G#,B
Cmaj7 b5 = C/,E,Gb,B
Cmaj7 = C/,E/,G/,B
Cmaj7 no3 = C/,G,B
Cmaj7 no5 = C/,E,B
Cmaj9 = C/,E,G,B,D
Cno3 = C/,G/
Csus = C/,F,G/
Csus maj7 = C/,F,G,B
Csus7 = C/,F,G,Bb
Csus7b9 = C/,F,G,Bb,Db
Csus7b9 = C/,F,Bb,Db
CMaj13 = C/,E,G,B,D,F,A,
;Slash Chords
C = D/,E,G,C ;C/D
I’m not going to jump on you cause while we need it stable we also want it useable. I think PGM is on the same page on some of this. I expect to see some cool stuff next year. This year I am guessing we will just fixes for now.
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...This year I am guessing we will just fixes for now.
Just again for the record... I think we have seen more progress in features, functions and operation in the past 3 months than we have seen in the prior 15 months. So I am hoping they keep at it while they are on a roll. Keep the betas coming with new features and performance.
But here is an idea, release the betas with a time limit expiration. Say 30 days. Then when Version 3 comes along in December there will be some much enhancement in features and performance we will be getting in line to pay up...
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It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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I get it Rob, lets first get this damn thing stable. So I can be patient and wait, just don't want this to be forgotten.
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