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This turned into a really great thread!! The biggest issue I have had virtually attending these shows is that I usually have something of higher priority going on. When it's a Sunday night I am watching football. Other nights often conflict with hockey, etc.... And I have tuned into Danny's stream twice over the years at 7pm MY time just to see him say goodnight because he played at 7pm HIS time. Yeah... I know.....
As far as streaming to 4 or 5 people, well, I can only tell you that Brian Culbertson tells the story of how, early in his career, he played herein Cleveland and there were 6 people in the audience. But the spirit carries on and he did his show as if it was to 600. The old "I don't care. I play for me." chestnut, while true, only prompts the question "Then why are you here?" Sit at home and play your 1000 song catalog to your dog and cats. If it gives you satisfaction to play to nobody, you do you!! You can award yourself the "songwriter of the year here in my house" award every year, win some "Homey Awards".... whatever satisfies your soul, because in the final countdown, you are the only one you need to impress.
Danny donates his tips. That's his motivation. And I laud that. I may do a stream, but between audio and video, I have 6 weeks of prep before I'd be ready to do that. We'll see. Eddie, thank you so much for the kind words. I am guessing I send the mass quantities of crisp 10.00 bills to the usual address? Humbly,
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I am really confused by that reply, Scott. If you wrote them with PG tracks, why WOULD you perform them solo? Just pull your vocal track out, render them out to MP3 and play the backing tracks. Geeze, bands do that live all the time. You see a trio with a front singer on stage but you hear keys, horns, lush backing vocals.....
It takes some gear and a good amount of prep to learn how to stream, but you can do it. And you should. You have a strong voice that fits your work perfectly. I didn't mean to confuse. I was trying to answer Danny's question about 'testing' original songs via live streams. My songs always start with an idea, a few lyrics, and some guitar chords. I can perform them that way, and I do, but it's not always how I want them to be debuted or heard. As far as streaming goes, I've been doing that occasionally for a few years now, ever since Danny told me about SJ. I think I'll give FB Live a try soon. I tested my setup for that about two weeks ago. As far as backing tracks go, at one time I started to build a repertoire of covers using BIAB. I had picked up a vocal harmony pedal and started practicing with it also, but in the end, that's just not me.
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That voice of yours needs to get into people's ears. Melodic, on pitch, and very aurally palatable. By all means, stream!
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That voice of yours needs to get into people's ears. Melodic, on pitch, and very aurally palatable. By all means, stream! Yes Sir . . . Scott is a "very" good performer/songwriter, and that title can be flipped in either direction and still be true. There is not a doubt my mind that he would be successful on or at any venue he gives the "audiences" time to adjust to showtimes. PS: I use "audiences" because on all venues the audiences seem to turn over every 6 months or so. Later,
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That voice of yours needs to get into people's ears. Melodic, on pitch, and very aurally palatable. By all means, stream! Yes Sir . . . Scott is a "very" good performer/songwriter, and that title can be flipped in either direction and still be true. There is not a doubt my mind that he would be successful on or at any venue he gives the "audiences" time to adjust to showtimes. PS: I use "audiences" because on all venues the audiences seem to turn over every 6 months or so. Later, Thank you, both:)
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Just settled in for the night to watch Pat Marr and Danny C go back to back on Street Jelly and here's this tribute to Allan Toussaint on PBS. Need to watch this now and I'll Jelly up Sunday. Job Cleary just played, Dr. John is on now. Some combination of Neville Brothers coming up later. Gotta see this.
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Okay! Pat Marr's show watched. Nice job, Pat.
On to Danny C! As usual, dripping with that Nawlins "cool".....
Nice job. Way more green screen than I expected. Setting the bar high of I ever do one of these.
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I put several weeks into trying to figure out how to live stream earlier in Covid. I downloaded OBS, and a few other pieces of code.
Bottom line, my Focusrite 18i8 (1st generation), does not allow 'virtual wiring' of any kind. So in order to stream, there was simply unacceptable latency - of the kind that makes your head spin. Tried all kinds of ASIO workarounds and just couldn't make it work.
Then I realized I would have no audience. And the amount of work it was to try to arrange it all to work, not worth it in the least!
So, I circled back to simply recording at home for my own entertainment. I recently got so fed up with Facebook that I quit the whole thing cold turkey - deleted the account and all the data. Zap.
And facebook live streaming seems really to be the place to do this with the least amount of effort.
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Scott, look into one of these.  No virtual rewiring like Voicemeeter or any of that. It will take someone of your intelligence and computer savvy-ness about a half hour to figure it out. Plugs into the USB and integrates with OSB very well. You set the whole thing up in your Windows sound settings. It does far more than I use it for. I just use the mic slider and the music slider where the computer's sounds come from.
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Amazon music just released live music for anyone with an account. I haven't tried it yet. Info on live Amazon Music ...Deb
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Looks like just, a Twitch account. I have friends who stream there and I have had an account for years but never streamed.
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I'd have to completely remodel my doghouse for that. I have equipment coming and going in my small space all the time. My desk is a mess. There are shelves of books, equipment and tools to the left and right of me and the floor and wall behind me almost always have amps, guitar cases, speaker stands and other stuff leaning against it.
Some of the really good videos I've seen they must be neat freaks or something.
I mostly produce songs for other song writers and they take them from there. I wonder if they are just paying for a keepsake and have no real intentions of performing or duplicating them. I'm going to encourage some of them to start posting performances of them singing to the tracks
I make. I'll see what happens.
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
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Doesn't sound like you need to add a wing or anything as much as you just need to set aside an afternoon to throw out stuff you don't need/use and put things away. In my case I am OCD and anal retentive so everything has to be put away so the next time I need it I know where it is. Of course rooms are ever evolving as things come and go, but for the most part I put my mental instability to work in a positive way. Like to go to sleep with a dirty dish in the sink??? Not on my watch. But consider this. I grew up in a dirty inner city, and if you left dirty dishes in the sink or crumbs on the counter you could hear the mice overnight or find roaches when you walked into the kitchen. Thus our house was always spit-shined. And as I grew up, that was my "right way" to do that. Now an old man, I still do it. I also have to fight myself to throw anything away because at one time it had value. (I had some RAM in my office that didn't fit any computer I owned. But, it cost me money and at one time had value, so I had to literally force myself to snap it in half and THEN it was junk and I threw it out. Yes, I am that obsessed.) So maybe just set aside an afternoon and clean, straighten, neaten, and toss.  And yes, that is a lava lamp. I have always had one, and I will always have one. At one time I had 6 of them. As they quit lava-ing, I tossed them to where I now only have this one. The 2 red Solo cups have screws in them from a guitar I am restoring. They aren't just empty cups. The 2 big white circles are lighting for when I am on camera. The vacuum cleaner... I just have no place to put it! But as I said, rooms are fluid and ever changing. I will be moving a desk that you can't see in that photo to give me more room to park the green screen.
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Eddie, that is one sweet looking studio. I am jealous!
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It's called the Heineken Maneuver.
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Eddie, that is one sweet looking studio. I am jealous!
Thanks man. Built the desks from $125 of wood and several design changes. Getting them into that room.... oy. One of them I had to lift on end, then lay it down on my back and rotate it because it was like one of those games with 15 tiles in 16 spaces that you have to slide around to get in order. I used graph paper (many sheets) to get it where I would not waste ANY space at all. One of the biggest challenges was finding a place to put the green screen. Next I have to improve the lighting. And actually I only practice and start songs down here. My guitars, the drum machine I use for accents, the vocal baffle and keyboards are all upstairs. Both computers have PG on them so I can scratchpad down here, copy the file to the upstairs computer and finish it up there. That whole plan was evolving for years. Oh, and behind the green screen is a small table with a M-Audio Keystation 3 controller on it, and the USB cable runs under the desk to the PC.
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OK, I am impressed, you are good to go man!
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Very nice set up sir. Love the homemade computer desk.
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Nice setup Eddie! Love those monitors...how big are those suckers?
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Nice setup Eddie! Love those monitors...how big are those suckers?
They are KRK Rokit 5. The ones in the mail room at Wharfedales. Both sets are 100w powered boxes.
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