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Please separate or create section markers (verse, chorus, bridge etc) from substyle/drumfill indicators.
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Logically, section markers for those who use one-chorus song “sketching”, should be in place independently of drum fills added to create rhythmic interest.
IMHO currently adding a section marker line at each drum fill can make for a confusing single chorus chord worksheet.
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I, for one, agree with Ian on this one.
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+1
There are times where I don't want a drum fill just because I changed from A to B and if I'm using markers to sketch out the parts of the song, I don't always want a drum fill going from A to A or B to B.
So I would love to see markers separated from drum fills (at least as an option, perhaps for backwards compatibility). It would also be nice to be able to put a drum fill anywhere you want without necessarily using a section marker.
This might could even lead the way to defined and labeled section parts (Intro, Verse 1, Chorus, Verse 2, Bridge, Ending, etc).
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Yes + another 1. Very good points indeed!
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A BIG +1
Not only would I like to see the drum fills separated from the markers I would also like to set the length of my drum fills to either 1,2,3 or 4 beats long. For instance sometimes just a single beat four 16th notes or two 8th notes are all I want. Just a thought.
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Yes to that idea Mario, although I've tried to do this by having a bar of 1.2 or 3 beats at the point where the fill comes in; the displaced extra beat (s) are added immediately afterwards. Makes a mess of reading the sheet and often the drum fills don't seem to work as well.
Jammer pro accomplishes this much better IMO and fills of various lengths have been there since the program first came out in the early 90's!!!
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A big +1.
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This is a very good idea and one I've often wished for.
You might have drum fills sync with Part Markers and you might not.
It would be great to put a drum fill wherever you want AND to choose how many beats that fill would be.
John
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Ditto to wonderful ideas above !
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That's the way it should be! Check out Soundtrek Jammer Pro 6 demo, you can download it and do everything but save songs, but you can write songs just like biab, put chord letters in etc. It only has midi instruments but with outboard gear works great and you can put fills anywhere you want, half measure, full measure, and you can put a fill in any measure one after another or whatever. check it out at: http//www.soundtrek.com
PG Music should check into how easy it works. We could use it here.
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I think PGMusic knows about Jammer - it's been around a long time and several folks on the forum use it in addition BIAB. But it also hasn't been updated (other than a few bug fixes) in a long time and you don't hear from the author on their Yahoo Forum anymore (he used to post quite often). Jammer has its own issues and difficulties, the biggest being that many people (once you get past the basics) don't quite "get it". Also, because of it's architecture you can't share songs and styles like you can with BIAB, without breaking their copyright (because the styles are saved inside the song file, so if you give someone a song, you effectively give them the possibly copyrighted style also).
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I bought jammer about the same time I bought biab, late nineties, and it's true they haven't updated much except for band styles etc. My point was that it's so easy to put drum fills anywhere. I would think that PG could pop that in there pretty easy, but I'm not a computer wiz, and with the realtracks, it might be tricky to throw fills anywhere so it sounds natural. Gee, I think I answered for PG with that last statement, lol. It would be nice if there was a way though.
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I really would like to see the ability to mark and make sections, Intro, A B C D etc. then Ending or Tag. Then a box to lay out the song as
Intro
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With the keyboard available to jump on the fly to the next part. You could also have Af or Axf meaning A with a fill or A x (no) fill.
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Bump
Worth keeping near the top. Ian
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Please make drum fills priority one in next update.
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"bump"  Just in case no-one has added this to the PG Music To-Do list for the next update or fix. Ian 
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I really would like to see the ability to mark and make sections, Intro, A B C D etc. then Ending or Tag. Then a box to lay out the song as
Intro
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Tag/Ending
With the keyboard available to jump on the fly to the next part. You could also have Af or Axf meaning A with a fill or A x (no) fill.
+1
Also +1 to separating drum fills from substyle markers (Ian's original post).
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Quote:
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I really would like to see the ability to mark and make sections, Intro, A B C D etc. then Ending or Tag. Then a box to lay out the song as
Intro
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Tag/Ending
With the keyboard available to jump on the fly to the next part. You could also have Af or Axf meaning A with a fill or A x (no) fill.
+1
Also +1 to separating drum fills from substyle markers (Ian's original post).
ditto
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"bump" 18 comments leads me to believe that this topic should be bumped to page 1 again. Would be nice to see it in the next update. Cheers - Ian 
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