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Any ideas whats likely/new/Proposed yet?
I'm still using 2019 and don't want to upgrade to 2020 yet with December looming.
What's everyone's thoughts?
Paul Morgan
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Usually in the first 2 weeks of December.
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PG Music does not announce new features in advance, so any comments here about that would just be guesses.
If history holds, and there is no guarantee of that, Steve’s timetable is reasonable.
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Any ideas whats likely/new/Proposed yet?
I'm still using 2019 and don't want to upgrade to 2020 yet with December looming.
What's everyone's thoughts? Same here.i think I missed loads by not buying 2020 but empty pockets y'know. Looking forwwrd to what's up for 2021. W
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I went from 2014's equivalent of Pro to 2019's Mega to 2020's Ultra.
Recently, there's been a 49PAK Bonus available each year.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but, while previous Xtra Styles packs, for example, are available for purchase, I don't think previous 49PAKs are. I believe that their contents may eventually work their way into future versions of BiaB, but I'm not sure.
So, most previously released content is available for purchase one way or another.
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Maybe re-generate selected bars only.
Maybe more tracks.
Maybe Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (and Song Settings Count-in) (and RealDrums Count-in Vol adjust).
Maybe a VST to sync the main Biab app to your DAW.
Maybe chord/scale note colors in Piano roll.
Maybe use keyboard styles .sty .prs etc..
Maybe midi chord track for Virtual Instruments and drag export with chord name markers.
Maybe 24Bit Audiophile version option.
So what are you hoping for ?
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while previous Xtra Styles packs, for example, are available for purchase, I don't think previous 49PAKs are. I believe that their contents may eventually work their way into future versions of BiaB, but I'm not sure. I don't think this has been definitively established. I think you are right, though.
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Pipeline laid out a number of possibilities, but the one thing that people have been asking for since I started using BIAB some 20 years ago is to have more than 4 chords in a measure. It would be a game changer to get that.
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I was just thinking the 2021 threads should be starting soon, and here we are already. My prediction is that there will be "50 new features".  Vintage
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Maybe re-generate selected bars only.
Maybe more tracks.
Maybe Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (and Song Settings Count-in) (and RealDrums Count-in Vol adjust).
Maybe a VST to sync the main Biab app to your DAW.
Maybe chord/scale note colors in Piano roll.
Maybe use keyboard styles .sty .prs etc..
Maybe midi chord track for Virtual Instruments and drag export with chord name markers.
Maybe 24Bit Audiophile version option.
So what are you hoping for ?
I'd be more pleased to see a number of existing identified bug issues resolved in preference to a stack of new features. That would really count as product improvements to me. To add the the excellent list above: Maybe inclusion of count-in based on a user-defined local song setting rather than a global setting (always or never). Maybe improved delivery of the multi-riffs feature, keeping selection and control totally within BiaB without having to go to audio level (more like the way RealBand provides this).
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I was just thinking the 2021 threads should be starting soon, and here we are already. My prediction is that there will be "50 new features". Vintage This has been such a rough year that I suspect that there might just be 49 new features in BIAB 2021.
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Don may be on to something with his "49 new features" (tongue in cheek) but perhaps PGMusic will feel sorry for us having to put up with Covid-19 and give us a bonus, as in "51 new features"! As for what features users would like to see, you may want to review what happened after the BIAB 2020 release, as discussed in this thread: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=579396&Searchpage=2&Main=81526&Words=Lloyd+S&Search=true#Post579396There I listed what I could find of the "50 new features", and we discussed whether any of them were a direct result of entries from this site's Wishlist forum. There are folks here who look forward with great anticipation to the 100 or 200 new RealTracks, and aren't too concerned about the new features at all. And there are those (me included) who would rather see more of the users' Wishlist features implemented, with less emphasis on RTs. I guess PG tries to strike a balance. My thought is, if you can't create a good BIAB song file with the 1000+ RTs we already have, chances are you won't be able to create a better one with 2000! Just my 2¢ (CDN) worth! LLOYD S
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There are folks here who look forward with great anticipation to the 100 or 200 new RealTracks, and aren't too concerned about the new features at all. And there are those (me included) who would rather see more of the users' Wishlist features implemented, with less emphasis on RTs.
I guess PG tries to strike a balance.
My thought is, if you can't create a good BIAB song file with the 1000+ RTs we already have, chances are you won't be able to create a better one with 2000!
Just my 2¢ (CDN) worth!
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Re-generate selected bars within BB.
Less messy Multi riff.
More RDs please.
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I am one of those "really happy with how BIAB is working" people.
I look for the new Real Tracks!
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Pipeline laid out a number of possibilities, but the one thing that people have been asking for since I started using BIAB some 20 years ago is to have more than 4 chords in a measure. It would be a game changer to get that. Absolutely.
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Any ideas whats likely/new/Proposed yet?
I'm still using 2019 and don't want to upgrade to 2020 yet with December looming.
What's everyone's thoughts? Same here.i think I missed loads by not buying 2020 but empty pockets y'know. Looking forwwrd to what's up for 2021. W Looking forward 2,got a few quid spare as well!!! Lol
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Maybe re-generate selected bars only.
Maybe more tracks.
Maybe Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (and Song Settings Count-in) (and RealDrums Count-in Vol adjust).
Maybe a VST to sync the main Biab app to your DAW.
Maybe chord/scale note colors in Piano roll.
Maybe use keyboard styles .sty .prs etc..
Maybe midi chord track for Virtual Instruments and drag export with chord name markers.
Maybe 24Bit Audiophile version option.
So what are you hoping for ?
Thanks for that.Great ideas.
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I was just thinking the 2021 threads should be starting soon, and here we are already. My prediction is that there will be "50 new features". Vintage Lol and maybe some different types of Genres in Real Tracks maybe?
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Maybe re-generate selected bars only.
Maybe more tracks.
Maybe Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (and Song Settings Count-in) (and RealDrums Count-in Vol adjust).
Maybe a VST to sync the main Biab app to your DAW.
Maybe chord/scale note colors in Piano roll.
Maybe use keyboard styles .sty .prs etc..
Maybe midi chord track for Virtual Instruments and drag export with chord name markers.
Maybe 24Bit Audiophile version option.
So what are you hoping for ?
I'd be more pleased to see a number of existing identified bug issues resolved in preference to a stack of new features. That would really count as product improvements to me. To add the the excellent list above: Maybe inclusion of count-in based on a user-defined local song setting rather than a global setting (always or never). Maybe improved delivery of the multi-riffs feature, keeping selection and control totally within BiaB without having to go to audio level (more like the way RealBand provides this). Great!
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