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Moin,
Hab mir heute Biab installiert, leider läuft bei mir die Midispur nicht synchron mit den Realtracks. d.h. wenn ich eine Melodie für Midi eingebe und das dann abspielen lassen hinkt die Melodie (Midi) Spur nach. Als Beispiel Takt 1, eine einzelne Note auf Schlag 1 wird beim abspielen erst fast auf dem 2 Schlag zu hören sein.
Hat jemand eine Idee voran das liegen könnte?
mfg,
Dan
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ach ja...neuer Windows PC mit einfacher eingebauten Soundkarte...
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Hall Dan,
willkommen im Forum!
Ja, dein Problem hat eine bekannte Ursache, die sogenannte Latenz. Damit ist der Effekt gemeint, dass die Erzeugung von Audiosignalen aus MIDI-Daten etwas Rechenzeit des Prozessors in Anspruch nimmt, je nach Computerleistung mal mehr, mal weniger. Das wird besonders deutlich bei Sounderzeugung "on board".
Das heißt, wenn der entsprechende MIDI-Befehl an die Soundkarte bzw. das Soundmodul auf dem Motherboard geht, dauert es kleinen Moment bis der Klang berechnet und ausgegeben ist. Diese Zeit nennt man Latenz und sie kann zwischen praktisch unhörbaren 1 bis 5 Millisekunden liegen (bei leistungsfähigen Soundkarten oder externen Soundmodulen), aber auch schnell mal ein paar Zehntelsekunden dauern, wenn der Sound nur durch ein Onboardsoundmodul erzeugt wird – und die sind dann deutlich zu hören.
Denn der Klang der Realtracks wird beim Abspielen nicht erst generiert, sondern besteht vorher aufgenommen Audiofiles (WAV) von echten Musikern.
Werden nun beide zusammen eingesetzt kommt es zu den mehr oder weniger hörbaren Zeitverschiebungen.
Um das zu synchronisieren, findest du unter den Optionen - MIDI/Audio-Einstellungen einen Button Latenz anpassen, der mit einem kleinen Testprogramm die LAtenz deines System ermittelt und dann das Realtrack-Signal um die entsprechende Zeit verzögert, damit MIDI und Realtracks zusammenpassen.
Du kannst mit der Verwendung eines alternativen Soundttreibers aber schon einiges gewinnen. Das hängt etwas vom Betriebssystem ab, auf dem du Band in a Box laufen lässt.
Wenn du Windows bis Version 8 verwendest, solltest du statt des Standard-Windows-Soundtreibers besser ASIO4ALL einsetzen, das ist eine schnelle, prozessornahe Schnittstelle, die die Latenz schone rheblich verkürzt.
Seit Windows 10 kannst du auch das neue Microsoft eigene Protokoll WAS verwenden, das die Latenz ebenfalls deutlich reduziert. ASI4ALL kannst du kostenfrei im Internet finden und installieren.
Die dann verwendete Schnittstelle stellst dui ebenfalls in BiaB unter den Audio-Einstellungen ein.
Empfehlenswert ist die Anschaffung einer guten internen oder externen Soundkarte.
Biab/RB latest build, German Language Pak, Win 10/64 Pro, 1 TB SSD, 32 GB RAM. Notation SW Finale, StaffPad, SmartsScore – Playing Double Bass, Guitar, Piano
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Hallo Brille,
Danke für deine Antwort. Musik am PC oder mit dem PC zu machen ist absolut neu für mich. Anfang des Jahres habe ich, wegen Lockdown und Corona, mir einen PC zugelegt. Einfacher PC mit Windows10. Mir ein MotuM2 besorgt und Reaper installiert um weiter mit meinen Bands arbeiten zu können ohne dass wir uns für Proben treffen. Biab hab ich mir jetzt gekauft um mal mit Playalong's üben zu können und auch um meinen Mitmusikern meine eigenen Songideen verständlicher mitzuteilen. Zu meinem Problem, ich hab auch an die Latenz gedacht. Habe dass dann aber verworfen weil es doch eine grosse Verzögerung ist. Ausserdem hab ich ein Häckchen an den Reiter für DXI/VSTI gemacht, und da wird ja die Latenz automatisch angepasst. Scheint aber nicht zu funktionnieren. Wenn ich DXI/VSTI deaktiviere kann ich die Latenz selber einstellen, ist aber ganz schön tricky. Muss mir da etwas Zeit nehmen das dann auch gut zu machen. Ich bin durchaus bereit noch zu investieren, mir fehlt auch eine Klaviertastatur. Zu was würdest du mir denn raten, eine vernünftige Soundkarte, ext. oder int. und einfache Midi-Tastatur oder gib's da noch andere Möglichkeiten? Ist wie gesagt absolutes Neuland für mich.
PS: sorry für die Schreibweise, aber Deutsch ist nicht meine Muttersprache
mfg,
Dan
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Wäre diese Soundkarte eine gute Lösung?
Creative Soundblaster SB0570
mfg,
Dan
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Ich habe das Problem jetzt mit ASIO4ALL gelöst.....erstmal ohne weitere Soundkarte
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Wunderbar, freut mich, dass es jetzt besser klappt.
Viel Spaß weiterhin!
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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