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aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly [Resolved] #619388 10/17/20 01:07 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2019 Posts: 278 Sydney, Australia berntd OP Apprentice
OP berntd Apprentice Joined: May 2019 Posts: 278 Sydney, Australia	Hello I have C C+ F ina song. But the C+ is no different to the C. Does BIAB ignore the + or aug? Or this is a setting somewhere that I need to change? The style is _DIXIEMED Edit: Style is _DIXIMED Regards Bernt Last edited by berntd; 10/17/20 02:53 PM. Band in a Box Latest: ULTRA 2020 (734) on Win 10 And: MEGA 2020 (720) on Windows 7

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619395 10/17/20 02:54 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Presuming you meant _DIXIMED (only one 'E') then I just tried it and the augmented C plays for me, both audibly and visually in the score. Any chance that your tracks re frozen? Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2020-10-17_23-52-39.jpg (206.42 KB, 156 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619401 10/17/20 03:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,831 Australia	Berntd, Here are a couple of things to check that could stop the augmented chord playing. See the image below. These are found in "Song Settings" -- right-click on the chordsheet and select "Song Settings" from the menu. 1. Make sure that "Natural Arrangement" (#2 on image) is DISABLED for the song. 2. Make sure that "Force Simple Arrangement" (#1 on image) is activated. These changes will set BIAB play the chords as entered. Regards, Noel Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) force simple arrangement.JPG (60.29 KB, 150 downloads) MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619468 10/17/20 03:44 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP berntd Apprentice Joined: May 2019 Posts: 278 Sydney, Australia	Hello, Thanks for that. Force song to simple arrangements does not fix it. It does change the arrangement though in other ways. What seems to fix it is the Natural arrangement option. I changed it from "As per options" to "Disabled for this song" I have attached the difference in arrangements. Regards Bernt Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Aug chord natural set to as per options.PNG (191.92 KB, 139 downloads) Aug chord natural set to disabled for this song.PNG (213.15 KB, 138 downloads) Band in a Box Latest: ULTRA 2020 (734) on Win 10 And: MEGA 2020 (720) on Windows 7

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619469 10/17/20 03:54 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Glad you got it going. I never use Natural Arrangement. It dumbs everything down. It's permanently disabled on my system. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619470 10/17/20 04:00 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Yes, as VideoTrack mentions, you have the option to turn it off globally. I do use Natural Arrangement sometimes because it can sound good on some songs, but not on songs where I want to hear specific upper extensions of chords. So, experiment. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619471 10/17/20 04:11 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,831 Australia	Like Videotrack, I have Natural Arrangement permanently off on my system to. I prefer BIAB to play the chords exactly as I put them in. If the "Force simple arrangement" is off, this will stop BIAB playing 7th chords in place of majors (I think that this is its main purpose). Glad you got it working! Noel my latest song: Jackson, The Wayward Wind MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly AudioTrack #619473 10/17/20 05:09 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP berntd Apprentice Joined: May 2019 Posts: 278 Sydney, Australia	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Glad you got it going. I never use Natural Arrangement. It dumbs everything down. It's permanently disabled on my system. Interesting. I am not even sure what exactly it means. Band in a Box Latest: ULTRA 2020 (734) on Win 10 And: MEGA 2020 (720) on Windows 7

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619474 10/17/20 05:30 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	It’s hard to explain because we users do not know exactly what it does. That’s why I try a song with and without. If you ask a specific question, we might be able to answer. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619631 10/19/20 09:08 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,250 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Never understood why it was created as an option. Why input the chords you want only for BB to ignore them and play a 'dumbed down' simplified version? If I want C - Am - F - G7 thats what I'll type. Bests Ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly sixchannel #619643 10/19/20 11:54 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	That's my take also. If I want an augmented chord, or a 7th or a 9th, that's what I ask for. If I didn't want them, I simply wouldn't ask for them BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly AudioTrack #619646 10/19/20 12:40 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,216 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack That's my take also. If I want an augmented chord, or a 7th or a 9th, that's what I ask for. If I didn't want them, I simply wouldn't ask for them Same here! Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer. It's called the Heineken Maneuver. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619651 10/19/20 01:50 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	I admit I don’t know for sure but if you enter standard chord progressions, Natural Arrangement is not a factor. C Am F G7 always had BIAB playing things like Cmaj7 Am7 F7 G7b9 just because BIAB always used AI to ‘jazz it up’ unless you specifically said not to and used a very simple style. No, where Natural Arrangement makes changes is if you enter more complex upper extensions like C13(#11) Am11 F13b9 G13sus. It’s very likely the RealTracks that were recorded by the artists did not play this exact progression. Yes, BIAB could play those chords but most keyboard and guitar players would simplify it. That’s what I think Natural Arrangement does. I think... BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619799 10/20/20 02:59 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Planobilly Veteran Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,703 Gulf Of Mexico As Of Late	I have found lately that certain instruments like steel do not always play the chord all other instruments are playing. Every chord I used, in the key of E major, was in key except a F#major. I had to mute out all the one bar F# major chords for the steel. Perhaps that one bar could be changed in Melodyne...I did not try. Just fire the steel player and get someone who can play...lol There are many seriously irritating things about BIAB. Cheers, Billy “Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig? “Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619846 10/20/20 10:22 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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WendyM Apprentice Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 274 UK	Yes but I still love it. Xxx BiaB2022PLUS,927. every extras pack I can find ;-),Sonar7XL,Win 10

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly WendyM #619865 10/21/20 02:59 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,216 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted By: WendyM Yes but I still love it. Xxx It is ironic that this software with so many "seriously irritating things" and in some areas so far behind today's competition that it still is our favorite software. Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer. It's called the Heineken Maneuver. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly MarioD #619909 10/21/20 07:01 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted By: MarioD Originally Posted By: WendyM Yes but I still love it. Xxx It is ironic that this software with so many "seriously irritating things" and in some areas so far behind today's competition that it still is our favorite software. Both right! I remain curious if any of you agree with my assessment of how Natural Arrangement applies, a few posts above. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: aug or + chords do not seem to play correctly berntd #619946 10/21/20 11:04 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,250 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	Matt, I think you have it. Ch I have NA turned off. If the RT can't or won't play what I ask,and I rarely go to 'Jazz' chords, I try a few alternatives. What I find curious however is when I've finished entering a series of quite 'normal' chords I often get a yellow box come up saying X percentage are fancy chords and consider NA. If I've purposely turned it off in Options,why flag it? Bests Ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

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