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I've been using RB for quite a while now but I'm stumped.
I can't work out how to change the default velocity input level in the piano roll window. At the moment every note I input manually is set at 100.
How can I change this?
I can easily change the default velocity input level in the notation window but not in the piano roll window.
Thank in advance,
Mike


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mike.
g'day mate.
try these.
1. if you open up the event list window you might have an embedded volume change so you need to get rid of that. otherwise the midi data will always revert to that volume.
(this is normal midi standard //behaviour).
for example you might have imported an external midi into rb with embedded volume changes.
2. look in the piano roll. do you notice the vertical lines at bottom ??
drag them up and down. (if you dont see vertical note lines open up the roll window.)

lots of info in rb help . also a book on midi is very usefull if you dont have one, and are possibly new to midi.
btw how u liking that acer predator ? powerfull ?
i'm curious , in rb menu test audio performance how many traks does the test say ?

best//hope above helps.
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Hi Mike

As I m sure you know velocity and volume are not the same thing.
Volume is a cntr 7 event and is effective on the channel till changed again. (continuous controller)

Velocity is how hard you play the notes, and will be different for each note depending how hard you press the keys. This is measured on a touch sensitive keyboard/piano by how long it takes for the note to descend to the bottom contact .the harder you hit
em the quicker they fall!
The range is 0-127 and effects the loudness of the note.
This is in addition to the over all volume cntr 7.
If you don’t send your notes from such a keyboard, or other velocity sensitive midi controller. Then a default value will be used for all notes.
As you say this is easily adjustable in notation mode.
You can also adjust it in the event list it is the coulomb following the one with the note values col 6. Should easily spot it if all the same.

In piano roll in Realband:
Make sure you select velocity in the drop down see pic (1)
Then adjust velocity with mouse pic (2)

Best regards
Mike

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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
mike.
g'day mate.
try these.
1. if you open up the event list window you might have an embedded volume change so you need to get rid of that. otherwise the midi data will always revert to that volume.
(this is normal midi standard //behaviour).
for example you might have imported an external midi into rb with embedded volume changes.
2. look in the piano roll. do you notice the vertical lines at bottom ??
drag them up and down. (if you dont see vertical note lines open up the roll window.)

lots of info in rb help . also a book on midi is very usefull if you dont have one, and are possibly new to midi.
btw how u liking that acer predator ? powerfull ?
i'm curious , in rb menu test audio performance how many traks does the test say ?

best//hope above helps.
oldmuso.

Originally Posted By: Mike Head
Hi Mike

As I m sure you know velocity and volume are not the same thing.
Volume is a cntr 7 event and is effective on the channel till changed again. (continuous controller)

Velocity is how hard you play the notes, and will be different for each note depending how hard you press the keys. This is measured on a touch sensitive keyboard/piano by how long it takes for the note to descend to the bottom contact .the harder you hit
em the quicker they fall!
The range is 0-127 and effects the loudness of the note.
This is in addition to the over all volume cntr 7.
If you don’t send your notes from such a keyboard, or other velocity sensitive midi controller. Then a default value will be used for all notes.
As you say this is easily adjustable in notation mode.
You can also adjust it in the event list it is the coulomb following the one with the note values col 6. Should easily spot it if all the same.

In piano roll in Realband:
Make sure you select velocity in the drop down see pic (1)
Then adjust velocity with mouse pic (2)

Best regards
Mike

Thanks Mike and oldmuso for your advice re velocity input level when entering notes with a mouse in the Piano Roll window.
For some reason (old age, perhaps) I don't recall the default level always being set at 100. I thought I might have changed it somehow but it seems it can't be changed (though the default level can be changed for the Notation window).
Oldmuso, The Acer Predator is great. It powers along whatever work I give it to do. I haven't tested it with the RB test audio performance.
Thanks again guys,
Cheers,
Mike


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Just an old muso, I just tried the RB Audio Performance test for my Acer Predator. See results below.
Cheers,
Mike

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mike.
thats a fine report on the predator.
i suspected as such. if not done so.
you might think bout 2 ssd's in that puppy.
one for win and one for recording.
ssd's are so cheap these days.
ive owned a couple of acers over the years.
not one problem and not loaded up with adware etc.
a friend of mine just bought a new computer , loaded up with adware and junk/stuff that will never be used.

so. are you ok now re velocity /volume etc ?
i was just waking up from sleep when i posted. lol.


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muso.


my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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