simon.
YOU SAID "Great thing about refurbs is they're tested before they get to your door."
THATS WHY I LOVE THEM ! AND NO MADWARE JUNK LOL.

i'm curious about your own gonzo refurb macs.
reason i'm asking , is, i tried a macbook awhile back at the store.
(but maybe the store had it set up wrong.)
clicked on the gband icon , and i waited and waited etc.
so i was rather surprised. i was expecting quik snappy response.

so, on your gonzo refurb macs, once you clik on say the logic or gband icon, how long before the traks display ??

reason i'm asking is i really cant crit win right now.
and believe you me i used to roar years back lol.
i clik on icon , and bam , there are my traks , no waiting around.
all is snappy. "bam".
includeing biab generation.
i lay out chords/load a style/clik generate and "bam", playback very snappy. no probs. thus i can work fast.
in fact my system is so snappy i can be playing a style back , and going, "nah" not what i want and load another style, and it generates without me clicking the generate button again !! WELL DONE PG !!

cos i'm not lazy. i like to audition quickly style after style with my set song chord arrangement.
for example what i'm doing right now is a song is finished. vocs done etc etc in daw.
bed traks from biab done. xferred to daw, over dubs done in daw etc.
now i'm going back to biab and auditioning each and every style (its a rock song but i'm auditioning even sambas /jazz/country and every other style) to see what other "neat sounds" i can use from biab/rb in this rock song.

for example awhile back i heard biab "bells". "great". like it.
so i xferred the bells out of biab into the rock song.
this is why i love biab. HIDDEN NUGGETS. now i dunno , maybe others will think the song is junk.
but we will see. might replace the bells with real church bells. but it all helps.

youve got a great mac set up there with ssd's etc simon. so i'm curious.

i'm thinking of going to a dual system set up.
2 xeon refurbs loaded with ssd's.
one win , and one mac. just for giggles.
my beautifull wife , i told her bout your RME, and god bless her sher said "i'll buy it for you for xmas".
but i realloy dont need a new interface.
i might get one in new year for giggles.
but i dont like to spend a lot in case it goes on the "fritz".
(you sussed mme lol. i like to get down n dirty with tech. lol.)

i think frankly, and ive noticed this with friends systems is one reason they have win problems, is they are useing the one pc for everything. ie its used for songs and also on the net,
then the kids might pop on it doing something etc etc. so its getting used for lots of stuff and thus gets "gunked up". and of course nobody bothers to do any maintenance.
my systems are maintained.

i'm curious to hear from other mac users also whether mini or on upwards in the range.
maybe you are operating a high end new mac. how quik to load logic or gband or biab or other audio software ?

on my win laptop i have latency right now reported of 6ms.
i can get it lower if i want , but i dont bother. i have DM of course this system is only used for song creation. nothing else.

thus simon i'm not sure win is that bad these days.

did you notice in the other thread (see you tube) slate digital have got latency down to less than 1ms in an audio interface ?.
so this is protools native territory whereby big studios typically used those avid real time interfaces.

also every new budget interface i see coming out these days claims ultra low latency.

mike.
yes the imac is nice.
but i'm "cheap" lol.
i'm sincerely hoping now that apple is useing their own arm processors processing power goes up and prices come down.
apple are missing huge revenue markets imho.

other mac users.
please tell me if you are useing any of the new interfaces
from ssl, motu, and others.

best.
muso.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)