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Good luck in your computer build sir! Building computers is not rocket science. And anyway, the first thing I always do when I get a name brand computer is format the drive and get rid of all the bloatware True that! I also like to wipe the C:\ drive every 2 to 3 years as well. While you can do your best to keep your machine clean, it still gets unneeded stuff on it over time.
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My thoughts: Power supply is usually the second thing to die in a computer, right after hard drives. Third place is RAM, especially if the computer was upgraded and the ram is a mismatched set. Borrow a known good power supply and test it in your system. And also, run Memtest86 for a few passes to see if it can catch a RAM error. My computer build list for the last 15 years has been to wait until my son builds himself a new one and gives me his old one.
I didn't realize what a good long term investment it was to teach him how to build computers starting when he was 7 or 8.
Since he's still a gamer, everything he builds is really high end. Brilliant move! I’ll bet ‘acting up’ is more likely from software than hardware. Agreed.
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Thanks Simon,
There is a new power supply in transit. Five years ago, I installed the new motherboard and the new i7 processor and the new 32 gigs of DDR3, none of it is mismatched. A clean install of Windows 10 Pro on a new Samsung 2 TB SSD was done by me when this issue first came up several weeks back. All the software was re-downloaded from the vendors including a new 2020 version of BIAB...WIN-BBA 2020 721.
I hope the power supply is the issue and it gets solved with the new power supply.
I have run a bunch of test including mem testing. I ran a couple of stress test and heated things up pretty good with no failure.
The issue is intermittent. This computer becomes a backup and I am building a new one. If it finally fails that will be great and whatever is causing the issue will be found.
Hardware issue? Software issue? Who knows. I also live in the Bermuda Triangle....well...just sayin...lol One thing I can say for sure, my buddy Wayne, a CCIE, who was one of the principal network engineers on the Hong Kong airport project spent three hours the other night looking into the issue without results.
I am done trying to make it fail on demand. Now that I am in the process of building a new computer this one will most likely run for the next twenty years without issue...lol
My only issue is a decision between a Ryzen 9 3900x 12 core 3.8 and a intel i9 9900 8 core 3.6. The cost is irrelevant. I have not been happy with the AMD processors I got in the past but everyone is telling me they are the best now.
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“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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This computer I am on right now will stutter on bootup maybe every 7th or 8th time. When that happens I unplug the power supply, count to 10, reconnect it, and it boots just fine. If THAT isn't proof that the power supply is the issue I don't know what would be! I have a spare but this isn't bad enough yet to bother with changing it. It's very cumbersome to unplug everything, pull it out of the tight space where it sits, etc... I'll do it eventually.
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This computer I am on right now will stutter on bootup maybe every 7th or 8th time. When that happens I unplug the power supply, count to 10, reconnect it, and it boots just fine. If THAT isn't proof that the power supply is the issue I don't know what would be! I have a spare but this isn't bad enough yet to bother with changing it. It's very cumbersome to unplug everything, pull it out of the tight space where it sits, etc... I'll do it eventually. I would replace that power supply ASAP. If you wait you may also have to replace a mother board, CPU, etc.
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billy.
would you be kind enough plz to post the following stats when you get your new ryzen or intel i9
computer up and running ? (ms = millisecs).
1. how long to boot into win desktop from totally cold in msecs.
2. how long to boot into biab from clicking on the biab icon in win desktop. msecs.
3. same for realband boot in msecs from icon click.
4. in realband action >> test audio performance. how many tracks reported max. ?
reason is, docs have me isolating at home after surgery.
so i cant visit my favorite computer stores to do testing.
thanks and best to you.
muso.
ps eddie. i agree , get that computer looked at.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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billy.
would you be kind enough plz to post the following stats when you get your new ryzen or intel i9
computer up and running ? (ms = millisecs).
1. how long to boot into win desktop from totally cold in msecs.
2. how long to boot into biab from clicking on the biab icon in win desktop. msecs.
3. same for realband boot in msecs from icon click.
4. in realband action >> test audio performance. how many tracks reported max. ?
reason is, docs have me isolating at home after surgery.
so i cant visit my favorite computer stores to do testing.
thanks and best to you.
muso.
ps eddie. i agree , get that computer looked at.
Just as an experiment the current machine boots up in 19 seconds with entering the four number password, 16 seconds to log on screen. BIAB in a little less than 5 seconds. All the software loades pretty fast except Studio One and Pinnacle. Pro Tools also loads a bit slow. Reaper loads pretty fast Sonar loads fast. From the standpoint of running A DAW, the i7 intel with 32 gigs of ram has been fine. I am not recording stuff with more than 25 or 30 tracks. I also have never recorded full kit live drums with all the microphones that that takes. I am in no rush to build a new machine and still investigating options. Billy
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That computer will get a CPU upgrade to an i5, and then I will take it in to my guys and have them clone the C:\ drive to an SSD. I also plan to put a better video card in it. I run 2 monitors of 27" and the computer only has one HDMI out, so the second runs on a adapter. I'll have them install an AMD or something with 2 HDMI outs on it. First though the CPU. I checked with them and they said as long as I get the same generation I can put an i5 gen 4 in it.
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And this thread inspired me to get some work done. My office and music "scratchpad" computer is out getting an i5 processor upgrade, the 1TB SATA C:\ cloned to a 1TB SSD, and an upgraded video card to add a second HDMI video port so both monitors run on an HDMI rather than one on HDMI and the other on a VGA port with an adapter. That leaves me with an i5 with 16GB of RAM, an SSD OS/programs drive, and both monitors connected to HDMI ports on a video card with far more VRAM than the onboard HDMI.
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