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Originally Posted By: A_R
What specifically is the problem you have with Delphi code? I'd love to know what you feel it's limitations are.

Don't ask me, ask every single DAW company why they don't use Delphi and why they have identical Mac/Win versions released at the same time ?

Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I know I always say about the "old Delphi" but you see with the Plugin code the Mac/Win both look identical, both have the same features, both are released at the same time. This way the Plugin for both version could be released in Dec, the Mac Plugin would not have to wait for the BBW4.app into the next year.



Originally Posted By: Pipeline
If you want to "a complete rewrite" you could use Delphi, sure, but why ?
The Plugin is developed quickly without limitations, all the limitations are with the BBW4 side and waiting for a communication line to be added.
The deal is the "OLD" code that has to be modified, I would say that is where the bottle neck is, that these things aren't just "DONE" as they would be if it was ALL done in the Plugin code....

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Originally Posted By: A_R
What specifically is the problem you have with Delphi code? I'd love to know what you feel it's limitations are.

Don't ask me, ask every single DAW company why they don't use Delphi and why they have identical Mac/Win versions released at the same time ?

Don't you think that's a little ignorant? You're harshly criticizing a programming language and development environment you know nothing about.


Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I know I always say about the "old Delphi" but you see with the Plugin code the Mac/Win both look identical, both have the same features, both are released at the same time. This way the Plugin for both version could be released in Dec, the Mac Plugin would not have to wait for the BBW4.app into the next year.



FL Studio is written in Delphi.

Originally Posted By: Pipeline
If you want to "a complete rewrite" you could use Delphi, sure, but why ?
The Plugin is developed quickly without limitations, all the limitations are with the BBW4 side and waiting for a communication line to be added.
The deal is the "OLD" code that has to be modified, I would say that is where the bottle neck is, that these things aren't just "DONE" as they would be if it was ALL done in the Plugin code....


Honestly you're just making things up that make little sense.

What exactly is "Plugin code"

And what makes you think that "Plugins" can not be written in Delphi?

I've yet to run across anything that can be done in C++ than can not be done in Delphi.

I don't see any advantage to doing a complete rewritten in C++ or C#, when Delphi is just robust, unless you're coders are not familiar with Delphi.


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If you want to "a complete rewrite" you could use Delphi, sure, but why ?

"unless you're coders are not familiar with Delphi. "

Yes that is a good idea let's write it all in Delphi Plugin and all, every man and his dog is familiar with Delphi because they all learn it now, this way we can still have Biab RealBand and BB Plugin in Delphi in 2050. My Niece is at UNI and that is the first thing she learned.
Sorry I think I have been at it too long and get a bit confused, silly me frown

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Yeah Rewrite would be nice, after playing around with the plugin, I ended abandoning the plugin and up going back to just dragging the wave files Band in a Box generates into my DAW, but then of course anytime I make a change to the song in Band in a Box I have to go through and do it all over again.

Ideally I'd rather have the full version of Band In Box running and synced together with my DAW as a slave.


I see the Delphi VST you made here, Thank you sooo much:
A VST to send Tempo/Play/Stop/Loop/Continue to main Biab app from DAW


I would have respect for you if I saw you helped in any way to fix issues or create any thing to help Biab users, as with the vast programming knowledge you have I can't see why you would not do this ????
But when I look I see you have given 0, F all, but always asking.
Why ? Maybe you are just a Master Debater ?




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Please guys, be mindful of forum guidelines about getting personal in your arguments. No need.


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I would have respect for you if I saw you helped in any way to fix issues or create any thing to help Biab users, as with the vast programming knowledge you have I can't see why you would not do this ????
But when I look I see you have given 0, F all, but always asking.
Why ? Maybe you are just a Master Debater ?






I'm still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with Delphi, and judging by your word salad response ... so are you.

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Ok I will retract everything I said and do as you suggest, end of story.

Yes that is a good idea let's write it all in Delphi Plugin and all, every man and his dog is familiar with Delphi because they all learn it now, this way we can still have Biab RealBand and BB Plugin in Delphi in 2050. My Niece is at UNI and that is the first thing she learned.
Sorry I think I have been at it too long and get a bit confused, silly me smile

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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
MY XMAS WISHES FOR BIAB 2021.
1. in the stylepicker some style demoes assume net access.
but the problem is a lot of studios keep their studio computers off the net. like mine. for security reasons.
plz just include all demos of styles with the product. eg the usb drive. or with updates....


Style Demos Audio - optional download (Full) (6.5 GB)

That is old unless there is an update it ?
The way I did it was save all the style list to text (option at the bottom) then imported to Excel, removed all columns but the style name, added .wma on the end and the pg site link where it previews the demos from when you are on the net in front of the styles_name.wma
saved as html and downloaded with a download manager.

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pipeline.
thanks. that excel good idea.
i get loads of song ideas just listening to examples on the pg site. its a v nice resource.
merry xmas.
muso.

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 12/12/20 03:01 AM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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The way I would find styles, was copy D:\bb\RealTracks\Data\Style Demos Audio
to a thumb drive and play them back randomly in the car on long drives, when I hear one I like I look at the name in the display and make a note.
This is a directory print, there are just over 8K in the list:

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Here's an update, just remove the .txt

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