|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270 |
Morning all,
Does anyone know if RealTracks and Styles from earlier Bonus Packs/Style Packs are eventually incorporated into a subsequent annual update.
I've just done a new install of BIAB2021 UltraPak then installed extras going back to 2015 but the RealTracks total didn't increase.
Vintage
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,058 |
If you installed new style packs you never had, the total should increase. Make sure you do a rebuild in the style picker window. FAST for PG Music Styles only and SLOW for everything that is in the STYLES directory. Did my upgraded yesterday and after the rebuild my total did go up to reflect the new styles.
You can also use HELP and WHAT ADD-ON's DO I HAVE to see if you are missing anything you have purchased with your package. This will of course depend on what you have purchased in the past and present.
BIAB2026
Windows 10 Pro (Never Windows 11!)
WA6NCB
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,157
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,157 |
I believe that some of the bonus paks realtracks do find their way into a future years update, there was some talk of that in threads going back a few years, but I suppose PG can say if you do buy these paks you have all that extra time to play with them, even though you might get them in future years.
If you look at the stylepicker list it can give you a clue as regards styles, For the time being I'm still on biab 2020 and in the stylepicker its showing 8899 styles (I do have quite a few of the Norton Music styles and also a lot of Xtra paks)
On the realtrack picker its showing 2926 realtracks, which will increase when I buy biab 2021.
Another small indicator of what you might have can be reflected in the bb folder size which for me is showing 172GB.
Hope you get it sorted.
Last edited by musiclover; 11/30/20 04:40 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270 |
Thanks for the replies.
I didn't think there was a problem, just curious.
When I installed 2021 I started to investigate the "80 New" and forgot about the Extras until today, but as I tried out various things some of the "new" RTs seemed familiar.
The RT total is 3128 before and after adding the Extras, according to PGM there are 3100+ available, so that sounds about right.
I didn't think to check the number of styles.
I don't trust the What Add-ons info, it tells me I am missing about 40 sets.
The current BIAB folder is 134GB, previous version was 119, probably smaller than your 172 because, when the option is available, there are some items I don't install.
Regards
Vintage
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507 |
I'm going to pose a question to the developers that hasn't been asked in a few years: can one buy an add-on of all prior bonus and xtra paks and special artists, to be sure one has everything PG Music offers?
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,157
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,157 |
I'm going to pose a question to the developers that hasn't been asked in a few years: can one buy an add-on of all prior bonus and xtra paks and special artists, to be sure one has everything PG Music offers? Good point Matt, I'm sure there would be a big market for that. Only problem I see, is if they are still offering biab on a 160gb hard drive people might run out of space on it, as that all bonus pak would be quite large in size. I have only got the downloads these past number of years last hard drive I think I got was in 2011 or 12 and it was 160gb
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507 |
If you are interested, here is a copy of what I wrote to the developers: Can I buy an 'everything and I mean everything" pak?This is based on a question in the main forum, but it's an idea I've wondered about for years.
BIAB regularly offers bonus paks, xtra styles, and one-time artist add-ons, and probably some things I'm forgetting. Note: I am not including separately marketed packages that must be purchased by everyone, like Guitar Star or the Pianist Performance Series - the stuff here: https://www.pgmusic.com/products.win.htm
What if you just purchased BIAB for the first time? What if you declined to purchase these at the time? We know some bonus material gets included in subsequent years but we don't know if all does, and in which package.
My question therefore is, can I buy a pak that would make sure I have everything that PG Music ever made? In a perfect world, a utility would examine what I have and present purchase alternatives for me to make my system complete.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507 |
people might run out of space on it, as that all bonus pak would be quite large in size. It's all in the perspective. Do you know that the audiophile version ships on a 2 TB drive and uses over 1.5 TB of it?
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,157
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,157 |
If you are interested, here is a copy of what I wrote to the developers: Can I buy an 'everything and I mean everything" pak?This is based on a question in the main forum, but it's an idea I've wondered about for years.
BIAB regularly offers bonus paks, xtra styles, and one-time artist add-ons, and probably some things I'm forgetting. Note: I am not including separately marketed packages that must be purchased by everyone, like Guitar Star or the Pianist Performance Series - the stuff here: https://www.pgmusic.com/products.win.htm
What if you just purchased BIAB for the first time? What if you declined to purchase these at the time? We know some bonus material gets included in subsequent years but we don't know if all does, and in which package.
My question therefore is, can I buy a pak that would make sure I have everything that PG Music ever made? In a perfect world, a utility would examine what I have and present purchase alternatives for me to make my system complete. That seems a great idea and if the user was only short a small number of items then maybe an option to buy them if they so wished. Yes I did know the audiophile was 10 times larger, I have a vague memory of threads that discussed the non-audiophile users getting the audiophile version at a lessor price, but I suppose it's PG's marketing strategy.
Last edited by musiclover; 11/30/20 06:28 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 745
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 745 |
I am missing 2 MIDI styles and a LOT of bonus styles after updating to 2021. I sent the support folks an email with all the details yesterday. I tend to stick with RT so I would like to see where they went.
...Deb
Last edited by DSM; 11/30/20 07:05 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270 |
That sounds like a good plan, Matt.
Either way, definitive clarification would be welcome.
On another RealTracks related topic, again, just to satisfy my idle curiosity. I notice in the full RealTrack listing, that the new batch of RTs requires BIAB2021, last years requires BIAB2020 and so on back to 2008.5.
Not sure when this started, but don't recall it in the past.
Is this purely a marketing ploy or is there something in the Fab50 or Exciting80 that will block future RTs
Vintage
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507 |
It's not a new policy or statement this year.
I think, and this is not official, please, that an older BIAB could technically use a RealTrack but only if it could find it. In other words, it is my understanding you cannot index the new tracks in the older program, so I'm not sure how you would select the newer RealTrack. I could be completely wrong.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270 |
I think you're correct.
I did a quick test by loading a 2021 set into 2019.
The relevant folders appeared in the 2019 RealTracks folder, but did not show up in the RT picker.
Vintage
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,766
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,766 |
It's not a new policy or statement this year.
I think, and this is not official, please, that an older BIAB could technically use a RealTrack but only if it could find it. In other words, it is my understanding you cannot index the new tracks in the older program, so I'm not sure how you would select the newer RealTrack. I could be completely wrong. That is correct, but to add to it there are some changes year to year in the programming to handle the new Realtracks, so even if you were to manage to get an older BB to index the newer Realtracks they likely wouldn't play correctly anyway.
I work here
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,507 |
Thanks Simon. Yes, that additional fact makes perfect sense.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 270 |
Simon,
Thanks for the clarification.
Vintage
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,062
Posts799,672
Members40,025
| |
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean