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...some prodigies put their playing and flash above the music - this kid keeps the song at the top as it should be....

https://themusicman.uk/charles-berthoud/?fbclid=IwAR1Da6FUU5dHlriaAfKyzV2vvnaVYa-I9yYjOZrgy8h7amK8cWBWfIV9YhA

He's got a version of Mad Mad World that's just amazing.

The only guy I heard use the tunning pegs like that was Adrian Legg - though I'm not sure, but I think Adiran Legg didn't have the 'auto' tuners when he changed strings.

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I watched. Most of it was a blur.

Amazing, sensational talent.


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That guy is freaking amazing!

I never heard a bass played like that!


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Holy smokes! Never seen anything like that! Where the heck did this guy come from!!???

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This guy has been on youtube for like 7 years now. 550k followers.

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So - that style of playing - has been around for quite some time. I was first introduced and blown away by it through Michael Hedges. In my mind, he was the pioneer and many of his compositions are the best in their class. I'm not sure who was either doing, or popularizing, that style of playing before him. You might say Stanley Jordan was one of the first - but he did it on an electric guitar, playing it more like a piano. Moving the technique over to the Acoustic guitar, altering the tunings, adding lots of harmonics and 'slam' harmonics introduced a whole new sound.

One of my favorite tunes from Hedges was Arial Boundaries, and a few others on that album by the same name.

One things is for sure - very few players can do more than one of such idiosyncratic styles. The guitar really is like many different instruments in one - when you consider how different it can sound when played with virtuosity in a "niche" style.

Anybody else out there a Hedges fan, or a fan of other guitar players using that style ? Also - does anybody out there play any of these types of compositions on their instrument ? I'd love to hear how you got into that, and what is was like to get that style under your fingers even for one composition.

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Isn't there some famous/well know banjo song that uses the quick detuning similar to this? I saw Livingston Taylor do it but I can't remember anything more about it.

If you go back further into this guy's youtube channel you will hear some great stuff. There is one called saomething like "The hardest solo ever" that was a great piece of funk. Thumbing, slapping, tapping, hammer-ons and pull offs... all of it.

If you don't know about Victor Wooten, check him out too. Wooten is from another planet completely.

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Victor Wooten - yes...amazing - you just turned me on to him Eddie. Share a few of your other favorites - any instrument, not just bass. And the rest of you also : )

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Haven't heard from any Michael Hedges fans out there - but just for conversation - here are some tunings to his different songs, and a link of Andy McKee doing Hedges Aerial Boundaires "right". I would have linked Hedges - but the shots of left and right hands in this video are perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymd0DuZ3m0w


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"Aerial Boundaries" C2C3D3G3A3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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1986 Windham Hill
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1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears
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"Arrowhead" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Aura Muunta" C2G2C3F3G3B3 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Aurora/Nevermore" The Shape of the Land
1986 Windham Hill
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"Baal T'shuvah" Bb1F2Bb2C3F3Bb3 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"Baal T'shuvah" Bb1F2Bb2C3F3Bb3 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Baby Toes" D2A3D3G3C4D4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 The Shape of the Land
1986 Windham Hill
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"Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Windham Hill in Concert
1986 Windham Hill
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"Bensusan" C2G2D3G3A3C4 Aerial Boundaries
Capo at III 1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Breakfast in the Field" C2G2D3D3A3E4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Breakfast in the Field" C2G2D3D3A3E4 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Breakfast in the Field" C2G2D3D3A3E4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Carol Jean" Santabear's First Christmas
1986 Windham Hill
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"Chava's Song" G1F#1B1A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Come Together" D2G2D3G3G3D4 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Come Together" D2G2D3G3G3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Communicate" E2A2D3E3A3D4 The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"Dirge" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"Dirge" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Double Planet" G1F#1C#2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3C#4 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Double Planet" G1F#1C#2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3C#4 Santabear's First Christmas
1986 Windham Hill
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"Dream Beach" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Dream Beach" Summer Solstice
1997 Windham Hill
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"Eleven Small Cubs" C2G2D3G3B3D4 Santabear's First Christmas
1986 Windham Hill
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"Eleven Small Roaches" C2G2D3G3B3D4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Face Yourself" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The First Cutting" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Follow Through" B1F#2C#3F#3F#3F#3 The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"Follow Through" B1F#2C#3F#3F#3F#3 Windham Hill in Concert
1986 Windham Hill
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"Forest Walk" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin
1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears
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"Free Swinging Soul" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Free Swinging Soul" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"The Funky Avocado" B1A2D3G3A3D4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Funky Avocado" B1A2D3G3A3D4 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Funky Avocado" B1A2D3G3A3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Fusion of the Five Elements" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Gimme Shelter" C#2E2B2E3E3B3 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Gospel of Mary/The Holy Flame" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Gospel" A1A2D3F#3A3A3 Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin
1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears
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"Gospel" A1A2D3F#3A3A3 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Guardian's Trust" The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"The Happy Couple" G1B2E3F#3A3D4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Holiday" C2G2D3G3A3A3 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Hot Type" A1B2E3F#3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries
1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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"i carry your heart" Bb1F2C3Eb3F3Bb3 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"I Want You" C2G2D3G3A3D4 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"I'm Coming Home" D2A2D3G3B3B3 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"If I Needed Someone" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Guitar Sampler Volume II
1991 Windham Hill
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"Ignition" D2F2C3G3A3D4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"Ignition" D2F2C3G3A3D4 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"India" A1E2B3D3E3A3 The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"Jade Stalk" Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Java Man" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Java Man" Sounds of Wood & Steel
1998 Windham Hill
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"The Jealous Tunnel/About Face" D2A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Jitterboogie (family version)" D2A2D3G3A3C4 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Jitterboogie" Db2Ab2Db3Gb3Ab3B3 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"Jitterboogie" Db2Ab2Db3Gb3Ab3B3 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Larry's Instrumental" Santabear's First Christmas
1986 Windham Hill
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"Layover" D2A2C3G3C4E4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Lenono" F2A2D3G3B3E4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Like a Rolling Stone" Bb1Eb2Bb2Bb2Eb3G3 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"A Love Bizarre" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Magic Farmer" C2F2C3G3A3E4 Aerial Boundaries
1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Menage a Trois" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries
1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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"A Midwinter Night's Dream" D2A2D3G3B3E4 The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"The Naked Stalk" D2A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Nomad Land" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Oracle" D2A2E3F3A3E4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"Oracle" D2A2E3F3A3E4 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Out on the Parkway" E2G#2E3F#3B3B3 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Peg Leg Speed King" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Phoenix Fire" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Pinball Wizard" B1F#2C#3E3A3A3 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Point A" E2A2D3G3B3E4 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Point B" E2A2D3G3B3E4 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Prelude to Cello Suite #1 in G Major" A Winter's Solstice II
1988 Windham Hill
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"Prelude" The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"Prelude" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin
1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears
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"Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin
1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears
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"Promised Land" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Ragamuffin" D2A2D3G3A3D4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"Ragamuffin" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Ragamuffin" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries
1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Ready or Not" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Ready or Not" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Santabear's First Christmas
1986 Windham Hill
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"Rickover's Dream" C2G2D3G3B3C4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Rickover's Dream" C2G2D3G3B3C4 An Evening with Windham Hill Live
1983 Windham Hill
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"Rickover's Dream" C2G2D3G3B3C4 Aerial Boundaries
1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Rikki's Shuffle" D2A2E3G3B3B3 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges
1996 Ecliptic Productions
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"Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Guitar Sampler Volume II
1991 Windham Hill
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"Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Road Music" E2A2D3G3A3C4 The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"Road to Return" The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"The Rootwitch" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot
One half-step low 1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Rough Wind in Oklahoma" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Running Blind" D2A2D3G3B3D4 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Santabear's First Christmas" Santabear's First Christmas
1986 Windham Hill
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"Sapphire" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Scenes (on the road to shrub 2)" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Scenes (on the road to shrub 2)" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"She Drives Me Crazy" C2C3D3F#3A3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Shell Shock Venus" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Windham Hill in Concert
1986 Windham Hill
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"Sister Soul/Kemberly" C#2G#2C#3F#3G#3C4 Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin
1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears
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"Sister Soul" C#2G#2C#3F#3G#3C4 The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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"Sofa No. 1" D2G2D3E3A3C#4 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Song of the Spirit Farmer" Taproot
1989 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Spare Change" F2A2E3G3A3D4 An Evening with Windham Hill Live
1983 Windham Hill
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"Spare Change" F2A2E3G3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries
1984 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Spring Buds" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"The Streamlined Man" F2G2D3G3G3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Streamlined Man" F2G2D3G3G3D4 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Theme from HATARI!" C#2G#2D#3E3G#3D#4 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Tomorrow Never knows" A1A2D3F#3A3A3 Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Torched" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Two Days Old" D2G2D3G3Bb3C4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Two Days Old" D2G2D3G3Bb3C4 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Unexpected Visitor" C2G2E3G3B3D4 Breakfast in the Field
1981 BMG/Windham Hill
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"The Unexpected Visitor" C2G2E3G3B3D4 Strings of Steel
1993 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Ursa Major" Torched
1999 Windham Hill
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"Ursa Major" A Winter's Solstice VI
1997 Windham Hill
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"Watching My Life Go By" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Water Music" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin
1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears
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"What Child is This?" Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"When I Was 4" Oracle
1996 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Woman of the World" D2A2D3E3B3A3 Live on the Double Planet
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"Woman of the World" D2A2D3E3B3A3 Windham Hill in Concert
1986 Windham Hill
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"Woman of the World" D2A2D3E3B3A3 Watching My Life Go By
1987 BMG/Windham Hill
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"You Can Have Anything You Want" G1F2Bb2Eb3G3C4 The Road to Return
1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET
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Originally Posted By: Joe V
Anybody else out there a Hedges fan, or a fan of other guitar players using that style ?


Just a quick sidebar here Joe V:

I was a mild fan of the Windham Label back in 1982 IIRC.
I saw MH and George Winston (piano) at a small concert at Stanford.

TBH....and not to diminish his skill set, that style of guitar playing works for about one song in a row.
Just not appealing to me for any extended listening period.

Will Ackerman was on the same label and I much preferred his music/playing style.
I've listened to his first couple albums countless times and they never got weary to my ears.

Back to topic amigos....

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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window

In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.

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You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:


  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

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