notes.
just trying to help you.
desktop or laptop ?
pg user etcjoe i notice perusing the pg forums is an advocate for refurbs like myself.
see his post today (he bought from amazon.) this thread ;
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=633898#Post633898

i cant vouch for usa cos i dont live there. and sometimes it IS a crapshoot. just gotta find a reliable supplier.
but heres what i would do.
1. google pc win i5 i7 xeon ssd 16gb ram refurbished.
this should bring up lots of companies that sell refurb systems.
i notice for example that staples and best buy in usa sell refurbs, and there are lots of others.
you are lucky. refurb prices in usa are very good.
2. make sure any refurb can be returned for refund in 30 days.
3. get a one year warranty. if you can.
4. if you can, get a system with 2 ssd's installed. one for win, and one for recording studio duties.
5. ideally you want a fast boot system. my refurb boots from cold around 9 secs.
also, when you get a system, run realband action >> test audio performance.
this test shows 190 traks on my refurb i5 system.

if you want cheap pc processing "beasts" , check out hp z and lenovo xeon processor desktop workstation refurbs.

around 500 buks or less. shop around.
good luck !
hnyear.
muso.

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 01/02/21 05:04 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)