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Hello,
I am rather new at trying to record anything using a PC so hopefully this is not a real dumb question.

I purchased a microphone and have a Focusrite USB interface operational.

I have installed Audacity.
It can record the microphone nicely.

But how do I record Band in a Box at the same time? I was hoping directly, without another microphone.

Is this where a DAW comes in or what do I need to do?


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Originally Posted By: berntd
Hello,
I am rather new at trying to record anything using a PC so hopefully this is not a real dumb question.

I purchased a microphone and have a Focusrite USB interface operational.

I have installed Audacity.
It can record the microphone nicely.

But how do I record Band in a Box at the same time? I was hoping directly, without another microphone.

Is this where a DAW comes in or what do I need to do?

Presumably you want to record into Audacity?
You may be able to do this by selecting the computers Speakers as the recording device. Then Audacity will pick up both BiaB and the microphone. There are other ways, but I think this is what you are looking to achieve.

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No, the speakers are not listed there. Only the Analog input from the USB interface and the built in microphone array.

Oh, and a Microsoft sound mapper device which produces nothing as far as I can test so far.


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Me again...

Ok, progress:

I found how to do set Audacity to use the Focusrite speaker output loopback as source.

It works for BIAB but the sound from the microphone is not there.

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Can you just record in Biab then add some fx to your vocal recording then save to wav in Biab.
Or if you don't need the chord sheet save the Biab song to wav, drop it into Audacity then set it to record the microphone.
Or if you upload your SGU I will convert it to Audacity Labels (chord markers) this will give you the chords in Audacity.

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why record into audacity? you can record your voice in BIAB or RB.

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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
why record into audacity? you can record your voice in BIAB or RB.

Yes, this is why I mentioned: "There are other ways, but I think this is what you are looking to achieve" when Audacity was introduced into the discussion.


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Hmm. where should I look to get more savvy on recording stuff properly and what is required etc?

Audacity seemed like a good start but I probably need to test the waters otherwise as well.
I do not know what I do not know so can't ask more specific.

I am basically still where I was 30 years ago with recording methods. And that was a mixer and tape recorder.


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Just try recording in Audacity how I showed you then try recording in Biab, that's the best way to learn

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This Video may assist (it's made for earlier Windows, but the principles are the same)



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berntd,

As the others have said, trial and error is the way to learn this stuff.

I do all my recording in a DAW such as Audacity. (I use Reaper.)

You don't need Audacity to record BIAB. It's possible to export the BIAB backing as an audio file and then import it into Audacity. That file goes on one track. Then the vocals can be recorded on another track.

When you get more experienced, it's also possible to export each individual track of BIAB and load them in Audacity. This allows for fine control over mixing.

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Thank you everyone,
I have managed to record audio into Band in Box directly.

It has a few issues such as the time from hitting record to actual start is real short. My footpedal does not work to trigger that since it sends re-generate/play (F4?).
So I scramble to run, pick up the instrument and start on time.

Secondly, there may be a bit of a lag. I am not sure 100% whether we play like that or whether it is the recording.

Thirdly, the mic picks up BIAB through the speakers as well.

It was just a fun test. Sounds terrible, ha.


I will experiment with Audacity tonight.
One problem will be starting and stopping everything on a single computer.

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Rather than moving BiaB files to audacity, try save into the BiaB song file and open them directly in Realband and then add vocals.


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Originally Posted By: Rob Helms
Rather than moving BiaB files to audacity, try save into the BiaB song file and open them directly in Realband and then add vocals.


So open song in BIAB and then?


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save the song in BIAB, and then close it. the suggestion is to open the BIAB file in RealBand. it opens BIAB files and is - for many of us - more transparent and easier to use than BIAB for recording.

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Thirdly, the mic picks up BIAB through the speakers as well.

You may be able to connect headphones instead of the speakers?


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack

You may be able to connect headphones instead of the speakers?


No have. Especially for 2.


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hey berntd, sent you a PM, if you live nearby in Sydney (I know, big city), I am happy to assist...
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