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From what I understand it's not safe to either shut down my PC with BIAB hard drive connected via USB or to disconnect my BIAB hard drive before my PC says it is safe to do.
1. I'm done with a session and want to close BIAB and disconnect the USB HD.
2. I save my project then close BIAB program.
3. I go to the bottom right of task tray and click on the USB icon to bring up the menu.
4. I choose Eject Sabient External Device and the menu closes.
5. A dialog pops up and says there are programs or files using the program and I should close those files or programs first. I don't find anything open. I'll have to make several repeated attempts to safely eject it before it actually tells me it's safe to remove it. I think it's a matter of time rather than multiple attempts that finally allows me to eject it safely.
Only thing I can think of that the program is/was using would be my USB audio interface. But, I leave that connected at all times for over 4 years. I use that with all other audio programs. I've tried clearing the clipboard via Windows +V but that doesn't seam to be the cause.
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Here are my questions; Why does it take so long after closing BIAB to be able to safely remove my BIAB hard drive?
Is there something I can do before or after closing the program to speed this up?
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
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Tobias,it is not just BiaB. I have the same problem with a number of programs. It is a Win 10 problem. It is a random thing here.
Another Win 10 problem is that Win 10 will sometimes restart after shutting down.
I don't know why either of these things happen. It is not constant enough for me to do some trouble shooting.
Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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I'm having the same issue with my Windows 7 computer and BIAB 2021.
Last edited by drkraft; 02/09/21 08:50 AM.
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Tobias.
question.
what is a sabient usb device ? i cant find one googling.
do you mean sabRent ?
if so what does this device do for you ?
my stdio pc never sees the net.
my win 10 never been updated for 5 yrs.
all music apps/interfaces run good.
amongst my friends , the ones with probs seem to use the net a lot.
best.
muso.
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 02/09/21 10:57 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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I have seen that message from time to time, but like you I wasn't able to find anything running.
I purchased a 1TB USB drive that would occasionally give me the message. I contacted the makers and they said it was truly plug and play and not to worry about removing it at any time. There was no need to eject. But today, as a matter of course, I do eject the drive. If it says that it is being used, I just ignore the message.
BIAB for Windows Version 2019 (643)
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I have seen that message from time to time, but like you I wasn't able to find anything running.
I purchased a 1TB USB drive that would occasionally give me the message. I contacted the makers and they said it was truly plug and play and not to worry about removing it at any time. There was no need to eject. But today, as a matter of course, I do eject the drive. If it says that it is being used, I just ignore the message.
BIAB for Windows Version 2019 (643)
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Just a question but why do you want to disconnect the drive? There is no harm is shutting down Windows with a USB drive attached.
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In the good article Martin provides from a couple of years ago, note that the Quick Removal (safer) setting is the default now. But I’m not sure about that if you have an older computer. In other words, I’m not sure Windows updates change the setting if you had the cache on. Goodness knows, Windows updates will sometimes change settings; the ones I double check are power settings and drivers. This one, though, I’m not sure if it does.
It takes only a moment to go there and see what your setting is, and choose the safer setting.
I also use a third party utility called USB Safely Remove, which lets me see all my drives and also can safely ‘force stop’ a drive when you get the message it cannot be removed.
And etcjoe is correct that Windows safely closes a USB drive at shutdown, so you can just leave your PG Music-supplied drive always plugged in.
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Tobias,it is not just BiaB. I have the same problem with a number of programs. It is a Win 10 problem. It is a random thing here.
Another Win 10 problem is that Win 10 will sometimes restart after shutting down.
I don't know why either of these things happen. It is not constant enough for me to do some trouble shooting. Yeah, I've had this issue before where Chrome was not allowing me to eject a hard drive, despite the fact that Chrome had never used the drive in the first place. There's a way of looking up what program is using an external drive using the Windows Event Viewer, which is what told me this. Be sure to close all programs before ejecting, or as others have mentioned it's safe to shut down or reboot with the hard drive connected.
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Thanks for the info from everyone. I suppose I just won't have a concern about it any longer.
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
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