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Song is in 4/4. Every once in a while I need a 6/4 bar for only one bar.

I follow the manual - select (shift-click) the bar to become 6/4, then Edit, Song form, Set time signature for a range of bars. The dialog box comes up and I choose 6/4 and click OK. A short, red, horizontal line appears at the beginning of the selected bar, chord symbol unchanged.

But upon playback the bar I tried to make into 6/4 now leaves out 2 beats of the chords. i.e. i get 4 C chords out of 6 beats... The subsequent bars all have empty beats even though they are in 4/4...at least i think they are...

If I only specify one measure to be 6/4 must I specify the next measure to go back to 4/4?

Here is what I'm trying to achieve: dot = beat

|4/4 C . . . |6/4 C . . . G .|4/4 F . . . | etc.

Is there a more precise and foolproof way to do this?

What about inserting a 2/4 bar. Like,

|4/4 C . . .|2/4 C .|4/4 C . G .|F . . .| the musical result is the same....I'm in Country swing style...

Confused, me. Why is the chart basically destroyed by changing the time sig in just one bar?

Thanks in advance,

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I think you'll find that you cannot add more beats to a bar, however, you can take some away.

The way I do this is to use two bars: one with 2 beats and the other with 4 beats. Set either the first or second bar to only play two beats by highlighting the bar and pressing Function key <F5> and setting that bar to two beats, as shown. Do let us know if this helps.

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Hi Dave,

I do the same as Trevor... that is, use two bars: 1 x 4 beats and 1 x 2 beats. I generally put the 2-beat bar after the 4-beat bar (but that depends on the song and where the 2-beat feel feels best).

If you go to the link below, you'll see the chordsheet play for a song that I wrote.

https://vimeo.com/143978481

This song has that 6/4 combination Trevor and I are talking about. Bar 12 is 4-beats and bar 13 is 2-beats. It happens again at bars 21/22, 39/40 (and a couple of other places).

Also, notice the red square around the bars that have 2-beats. This red square is saying that there are bar changes at the location.

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Dave, go to the wish list forum and ask for time signatures other than 2/4, 3/4, and 4/4 be added. I have been screaming for time signatures for 6/8, 5/4, 12/8, etc for years.


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thanks fellows. But nothing works. I set up a song and just typed in a whole bunch of C chords for 8 bars. Then I highlighted the second bar and did the "2-beats" as shown above. Press 'play'....That 2nd bar did have 2 beats but the subsequent bars also all had two beats and the chords missing entirely from alternate bars. If I highlight the third bar and tell it 4 beats the song reverts to 4/4 but then there are two empty beats in bar 3 and then the 4/4 feel is 2 beats out of synch with the bar lines...

It occurs to me I could solve my problem by having the song be in 2/4 time to begin with and then entering an extra bar of 2/4 where I want it.

But the software doesnt seem to allow me to create a song in 2/4...

Wish list here I come...

Thanks for the help...

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Dave cross posted his issue in the +++ BiaB Wishlist Forum +++.

Dave indicated in that post he is using BiaB for Mac. Dave also said he can not access F5 Bar Settings. I posted multiple ways in that thread that Dave can use to access the F5 Bar Settings.


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I have also phoned the 1-800 number for help. they have asked me to send an SGU file showing what happens when i try to a) change from 4/4 to 2/4 and back to 4/4 and b) set up a song in 2/4 that has no time signature changes at all. I sent it.

Noel 96 (thanks for posting your song) seems to have conquered the problem of the inserted 2/4 bar but he's on a PC platform. It may be that my MAC version of BIB is the problem....

Frustrating.... thanks to all for trying to help.

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Dave,

After you set the 2-beat bar, it's necessary to move to the next bar and use Bar Settings to set it to 4-beats.

For example, if you want only bar 10 to be 2 beats...

1. click on bar 10

2. right click on the chordsheet and choose Bar Settings

3. set the number of beats to 2

4. now click on bar 11 and enter into Bar Settings

5. set the number of beats to 4

BIAB is designed like sheet music in that when a new time signature is added on the music, that time signature stays in effect until it encounters another time signature.

Hope this helps,
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I tried this. Still leaves out beats. Weird.

I have a reply from PG after I sent in an SGU of what is happening.

They call it a "glitch" and are working on it...

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Originally Posted By: Cotts
I tried this. Still leaves out beats. Weird.

I have a reply from PG after I sent in an SGU of what is happening.

They call it a "glitch" and are working on it...

Dave


Yup, it's a bug for sure. I've reported it to the development team so they can fix it.


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I appreciate the support from the developer.

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I think I am hitting this bug. Is there a patch for it?

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