Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
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a drum set is not one large instrument, it's a collection of smaller instruments put together, so if you use that logic then each individual instrument only needs one mic.........Keep in mind when reading the above that I'm not the person who records, edits, or mixes our Realtracks (yet), I'm just going from my years of experience with recording in general.


Simon, I'm glad you recognize that... Now..... I, and many others here would love to see PG take the same view and give us the ability to have individual drum tracks so the drums can be fine tuned a bit. Maybe push that idea in some of the staff meetings as a new feature for future drums.... heck, you don't have to go back and redo everything.... just start offering say.... a couple dozen "expanded drum tracks" in the 2022 version.



I agree, I'd love to see individual stems for drums in a future version of BB. The issue is in storage and track count - with the Audiophile edition, we're already at 74gb of drums for BB. Assuming a minimum of 4 mics for drums (kick/snare/overheads) we would double that to ~150gb - that's doable. The kind of people who would want to tweak drum mixes might want a mic on every single piece of the kit, so then we're talking a minimum of 8 mics for a 5-piece drum kit with 2 cymbals and hi-hats, and 296gb of space - add in stereo overheads and stereo room mics and we're at a dozen mics and 444gb of space. Add in top and bottom mics for toms and snare, in and out mics for kick, and we're at 17 mics now, which would be 629gb of drums alone, and we haven't even expanded past the typical 5-piece rock drum kit into the prog-rock Neil Peart/Mike Portnoy/Bobby Jarzombek kind of world - now we're talking a couple terabytes of drums (which would be awesome, but still). And we're still not even jumping into higher bit depth or sample rate, which is another feature request I often see whenever anyone brings up separate drum stems.

I understand most of those particular configurations would be going maybe a little "beyond" what most would want, but it's worth considering. How many mics would you want on an "expanded drum track"? I'd personally be cool with the 12-track setup I mentioned above, as that's my usual go-to when I need more than the Glyn Johns setup.

Track count would need to increase too - we already have the utility tracks, so that probably wouldn't be much of an issue to add more, but still - we have a total of 24 tracks with all the original BB tracks and the 16 utility tracks. Perhaps our brilliant programmers could add a submixer on the drums channel, hard to say though. Regardless, I'm personally 110% for the idea, it just will require a solid implementation.


This is JMO, but I'd be thrilled if we could just get stems on the kick and snare. Those are the two things I'd really love to have more control over in mixing.

I recognize this isn't optimal for those who would like to really fine tune the drums, but for the most party (again IMO) the drums sounds pretty solid in BIAB, and just having those two would be a big improvement.

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