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There is real freedom of speech here in the US, ....
...and so much the better!
But the original theme of this thread was not the right to freedom of expression but the right of actors other than officers of the legitimately elected goverment to bear arms.
I would still be interested to hear reactions from the "free men need guns" lobby to my post earlier (# 270062) and to the link embedded therein.
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mglinert,
The people arrested a couple of days ago violated their rights of free speech as soon as they started plotting to kill someone, especially police officers. They became nothing more than domestic terrorists. Worse than common criminals. They are being dealt with accordingly, as they should be.
As a side note, they would have had guns whether they were legal or not.
Conley,
I've lived in the US all of my 53 years and I've never had an experience like you describe. If this is such a terrible place to visit, why do you keep coming back? Trust me, we could do without your "tourism". Even more so since you think so poorly of our country.
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Every year we paraded in
Yale MI
Richmond MI
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20 local parades
The problem was getting into the country became impossible. That's a traditional marching band. I can see them holding up the Oriental Band who dress like Arabs. In fact the whole Oriental Band thing we had going went underground for 3 years.
And I met and hung out with fellow firefighters and peace officers.
But State Police up around Flint? Take a drive around at 11 at night. This moron ran outta gas in an area full of vacant buildings and guys standing around 45 gallon drums burning whatever. The are scared because everyone has a handgun, face it. I'd be petrified and do the same thing.
We have recently had a real tragedy. A guy went off the rails and when the cop who pulled him over got out of the car he killed him with a rifle. Turns out both guys were members at one time of the same Pentecostal Church in a very small town north of Toronto known for selling new cars really cheap. The guy was a 70 year old marksman. His wife left him. He ended up with 6 gun shot wounds, and died a few days later.
But here they know stopping a guy with a FD sticker and a Masonic logo on his car has no freaking handgun.
I don't blame the cops for that, but I don't like it.
Our marching band sent a letter to the communities asking them to support the Detroit inner city bands, or their local bands.
If you cut off all Canadian tourism you'd only lose 3 billion dollars. That used to be higher from what I understand.
I used to spend at least 2k in Michigan every year. Often stayed overnight. Went shopping. And thanks for the tip, but I can't travel now for 3 months due to medical conditions, I lose my out of country insurance when I have a new 'condition', or medication. I was back for test today, so I can't come, sorry. I was going for a chicken dinner and trying to meet up with Sarnia Jeff and rharv before the slice and dice, but it would have to be on this side of the water, and rharv would need a passport to get back into the USA.
The only place I can go south is Cuba. They give us free health care if something happens when you visit. Or I mean we visit.
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Conley, Quote:
If you cut off all Canadian tourism you'd only lose 3 billion dollars.
I wasn't suggesting that we cut off all Canadian tourism, only that you don't come here. After all, it is such a terrible place.........according to you.
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As usual, the so-called main stream news media has perverted the Coulter incident by way of data omission. Here's the truth:
"when asked by a seventeen-year-old Muslim student at the University of Western Ontario last Monday, "[S]ince I don't have a magic carpet, what other modes [of transportation] do you suggest," Coulter responded, "Take a camel."
What the Coulter-hating media ignored is that she spent almost two full minutes giving a rather thoughtful, fact-based answer to the first, more serious part of Fatima Al-Dhaher's question, and was badgered by others in the crowd who clearly didn't like her response.
At that point, Coulter heckled the hecklers."
As I've stated, I'm not a big fan of Ann Coulter. She uses provocative and often insulting language to make her points. Of course, some countries have laws about hurting people's feelings and those countries are quick to condemn some folks while allowing hate-filled speech by others. In any event, this incident is all recorded on video, so we can all check it out and decide for ourselves.
There is a strong flow of ideas and opinions in the US, and I completely agree that these ideas, and the speech about them, needs protecting, as did the Founding Fathers, who really didn't like folks being imprisoned or executed for saying some derogatory words about King George, etc.
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On a related topic:
Oh, indeed,Cuba is a virtual heaven-on-earth utopia...people are just flocking there in droves and risking their lives to live in the socialist paradise...
Oh, er, wait a minute there. Must be sniffing too many corks lately...just the OPPOSITE is true. Thousands upon thousands have risked their lives and thousands have died trying to leave Cuba. Their baseball team has to have security escorts to prevent them from immediately defecting to the land of the capitalist pigs.
I pay too much for health care, but God knows, I'd pay a lot more rather than have to live in communist Cuba...or I'd just up and die.
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I'm sure the more than 1 million Canadians who vacation in Cuba each winter wish you'd stay home too. Makes it way cheaper for us.
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Axeginger01, Quote:
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Oh, indeed,Cuba is a virtual heaven-on-earth utopia...people are just flocking there in droves and risking their lives to live in the socialist paradise...
Oh, er, wait a minute there. Must be sniffing too many corks lately...just the OPPOSITE is true. Thousands upon thousands have risked their lives and thousands have died trying to leave Cuba. Their baseball team has to have security escorts to prevent them from immediately defecting to the land of the capitalist pigs.
I pay too much for health care, but God knows, I'd pay a lot more rather than have to live in communist Cuba...or I'd just up and die.
Excellent point. The last time I checked, there wasn't a mass exodus from the US. But there do seem to be millions of people who want to get into the US illegally every year. That's strange, since Conley thinks this is such a horrible place to visit, much less live.
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We are lined up at the border, panting to get in. Geez, all you have to do is walk in for pete's sake. I can live in the US any day I want. It's all about income and assets. Just look it up.
Actually next year is supposed to be the 'balance' year, where as many Americans move to Canada as Canadians moving to the US. I don't know how they count it, my brother in law and family have moved to the US twice, Australia, Germany and England each once. All were 2 year contracts for auto plant engineering.
My friend move to Charlotte for 2 years, he's an RN. He got moving expenses, free lodging of some sort and medical. But he came back for the coffee.
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John,
"But he came back for the coffee."
If he was drinking Starbucks, I can understand it. I still want to try Tim Horton's!
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I can see them holding up the Oriental Band who dress like Arabs....
Ok, John my friend, and I do mean that. Is a very liberal left wing Canadian actually advocating racial profiling just like all us right wing nut jobs here in the lower 48? Do you have any idea how many times all the right wing commentators including Ann Coulter have said how idiotic it is to just randomly grab people out of a line whether at the border crossing from Canada or at LAX? Who attacked us on 9/11? What countries were they from? Who are the vast majority of terrorists we're capturing now? Of course there are some exceptions but to ignore what Israel has learned the hard way and waste resources putting some blue haired grandmother or your marching band under the microscope while groups of muslims just pass on through is insane. Sure some would try to disguise themselves but if someone tries to cross from Canada on a Yemenese passport, they should get looked at before you should, right? Yes, of course most muslims are peaceful and it's too bad they would have to be harassed more than everybody else but as they say war is hell. As it is, if any advocacy group representing any minority whether it be blacks, hispanics, muslims whomever gathers evidence that any police agency have been pulling over or otherwise grabbing people at a rate greater than just random chance, the lawsuits start flying. There's plenty of liberal judges who will rule that the evil police are guilty of racial profiling and that group will win millions from the city, state, the Border Patrol, whatever. That kind of wrong headed liberal thinking is the reason you, as an enlightened Canadian liberal, gets harassed at our border and it's completely stupid imho.
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Sorry, John C., but you continue to miss my point and answer my views with a series of ad hominem attacks.
In any event, I don't have any problems with Canadians vacationing in Cuba, or any other country. All I'm saying is that there are millions of people of Cuban extraction who now live in the USA and are, or are desended from, Cubans who had/have a desire to be free and make a good living. They simply can't do that in Cuba.
In addition, I have never claimed that Canadians are flocking into the USA. I'm sure that they are quite content to live in Canada, as well they should be -- it's a very nice country. However, there were over a million Vietnamese who entered the US during and after the war, and that from a country with about 14 million people. So something like 7% of the population just up and left home...
Note also that the fastest growing religion in the USA is Islam, despite the various wars that are now being fought in that area of the world. The USA remains a place where folks can be free and make a good living if they try. Perhaps it's not the ideal country for everyone, but what country is?
Hmmm...I'll answer my own question -- The Republic of Texas!
It's the ideal country for all people everywhere. Too bad it doesn't exist anymore...
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I hesitated to start a new thread with this, so I add it to my post here...I'm thinking of making a movie of this story-line. Looking for music score composers. Should be straight as an arrow!! OBAMACARE---A BIG FAT FAIRY TALE!!(with 50+ interesting comments)! http://biggovernment.com/cwinecoff/2010/...```````````````
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Hey John, check this out LA Times New rules for airline screening I didn't know DHS followed my post in this forum...  I have to admit this is somewhat impressive and it's about time. The article doesn't mention the physical border crossings but maybe this will filter down to that level and you won't be harassed so much trying to visit us. Bob
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Air line screening really sucks since 9/11/01. Used to be I could stuff a bag of pot into my underwear, no problem. Even if they squeezed (they never did) there they couldn't tell. You could even smoke a joint in the plane's john.
Man, I hate terrorists.
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