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Pieces of Our Hearts
You and me
with pieces of our hearts
that won't fit right
we always seem to fight
every night it's just the same thing
can't forget or forgive

I thought you'd see
the only thing I want
is me and you
Why's that so hard to do?
I would never have guessed
this is all we'd have left

Like the dark skies before the frozen rain (dark skies, frozen rain)
Or a moth to the flame (we are drawn to the flame, to the flame)
We keep travelling on this empty road (I set my eyes on a new road)
Nothing ventured or gained (I'll set my sights for Jerusalem)

Seems to me
all we really know (all I know)
is not to let go (not let go)
We won't let it go (don't let me go)

Only dark skies (dark skies)
and endless pouring rain (bring endless rain)
Nothing ventured or gained (nothing gained)

The lights are fading at the end of the show (lights fade at the end of the show)
like a dying fire's glow (the fire's dying glow)

If you will be the one to catch me
I'll be the one who lets go

I've spent all this time (I've been waiting)
waiting for a love (waiting for a love, a love)
who would make his heart my home (who is my home)
After all this time (all this time)
and all this love we shared (all we shared)
why do we feel alone? (why do we feel, feel alone)

You and me (you, me)
with pieces of our hearts (pieces of our hearts)
that won't fit right (won't fit right)


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Style is _CEDAR.STY (Cedar Woodblock Acoustic Praise)
RealTracks in style: 1255:Bass, Electric, PopShiningA-B Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 1277:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopUpliftA-B Ev16 120
RealTracks in style: ~405:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 120
RealTracks in song: 3443:Guitar, Electric, Soloist BritPsycFunky Ev16 100
RealTracks in song: 2500:Guitar, Baritone Electric, Rhythm PopCountryBrent Ev 120 (CustomFX)
RealTracks in song: ~1677:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking CountryBrent Ev 120
RealDrums [in style:PraiseWorshipShine-01-SCHt,SRCy [Multi]

Vocals: Synthesizer V, Eleanor Forte (Lite)

The Effects Chain
Vocals: Greg Wells VoiceCentric, Raum reverb
Bass: Blockfish, BootEQ Mk II
Drums: Sunset Sound Studio (Live Room), Scheps Omni Channel Strip
Strummed Guitar: Scheps Omni Channel Strip
Lead Guitar: Scheps Omni Channel Strip, JS Tremolo
Electric Guitar: JS Tremolo
Piano: BlockFish, ReaEQ
Master: Sunset Sound Studio (Live Room), Ozone Imager 2, Lurssen Mastering Console

The Blah Blah Blah Part
This song started out _CEDAR Demo. In retrospect, it probably wasn't a good idea to use a drumkit with so much percussion without having some control over it, but whatever. Lesson learned?

The goals I had for the song was to use the female Synthesizer V vocalist on the lead, and to leave more room for a guitar solo.

I applied the standard "add more major 7th chords" process to the original chord progression, along with some minor-ish segments. A major 7th section was added for the guitar solo.

I rendered a backing track in BiaB and exported it to Synthesizer V and in the piano roll mode entered a bunch of notes until I had something resembling a melody.

Then I started trying to fill in the notes with words, which was a long and meandering process.

I've been watching The Republic of Doyle, and there was the line along the lines of "Life's too short to live with someone who hates you.", which was probably the genesis for the of the song. It certainly wasn't a straight-forward process. Lyric writing for me rarely is.

The theme of "letting go" seems to be popping up in my lyrics lately. Sorry for repeating myself, but I'm just happy to have any lyrics.

Eventually, the lyrics got filled in. One nice thing about using synthetic voices is that it's easy to go back and change lyrics. There were a lot of rewrites, especially once I'd actually honed in the idea. The counter-line was written along the way, with a lot of back-and-forth between the original lyrics.

In doing the mix, there was a bit of duplication between instruments. For example, the piano and strummed guitar basically served the same function, as did the arpeggiated 12 string and electric guitars. The basic mix was pretty easy to do, but then my son worked on it, and it got overly compressed.

I had trouble getting enough "punch" out of the drums until I used the Sunset Sound Studio "Live Room" setting to put it an actual space. I also added the same effect to the master buss to try to glue everything together.

Some of the Synthesizer V voicebanks are "trained" to emulate the pitch variations of an actual singer. The Eleanor Forte (Lite) voicebank doesn't have that option yet, but he Saki AI (Lite) does. So I swapped the voice to the Saki AI (Lite) voice, applied the "Auto Tuning" option, and then switched back to the original Eleanor Forte (Lite) voice. The effect was pretty subtle, but it seemed to work pretty well. There were some places where the result sounded glitchy, so I edited or removed those segments.

I didn't to too much tweaking of the vocal beyond that, but I did have to do a bit of work to make sure the pronunciation was as clear as the phoneme set would allows.

Based on feedback on prior songs, I've bumped the volume of the bass a bit. The drums are also fairly loud - perhaps they need to come down a bit. Feel free to let me know what you think of the mix.

As always, comments of any sort are welcome. smile


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David & Son,

First things first... LOVE the drum sound. Loud and Proud as they should be for a song like this.

The bass and piano work perfectly with them (drums). Really nicely mixed/balanced. (and I'm hearing percussion that I don't see listed - a nice addition - wood block?)

The guitar solo sounds good.

A nice write. Interesting lyrics throughout - especially the "choruses".

The interweaving of vocals is ASTOUNDING! Not an easy thing to do - an exceptional job. And at that point, the voices sound really good together.

Nice drop at the end.

The mix is SUPERB! This really POPS through my speakers.

Several listens. Worth it.

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The best yet of these so far I think, David. Either you are getting better working with those synth vocals or they are starting to grow on me!

Drums sound great! I would have said "loud and proud" but I see floyd beat me to it wink

Entire mix sounds fabulous through my studio 'phones.

Good song, enjoyed.

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Hi David,

Fabulous. Loved the whole thing.

When I looked at the number of rhythm instrument RTs in the list, I was expecting
the mix to sound cluttered and confused, but not a bit of it. Everything was clear
and the rhythms were working together like a well balanced machine.

Something about the female voice, slightly unreal but haunting, really brought me out
in goosebumps and made me go back and play the track again straight away.

It has the feel of one track from a "concept" album - as though it's part of a
story still to be told. Fascinating.

Wouldn't change anything. Your best yet.

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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
First things first... LOVE the drum sound. Loud and Proud as they should be for a song like this.

The bass and piano work perfectly with them (drums). Really nicely mixed/balanced. (and I'm hearing percussion that I don't see listed - a nice addition - wood block?)

Hi, floyd jane. A nice start to my morning seeing you as the first post!

It means a lot to get your approval on the drums. laugh

The additional percussion is actually baked into the RealDrums, which makes mixing it... interesting. It would have been nice to have some variations to the track that didn't have the percussion, but that wasn't an option with these tracks.

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The guitar solo sounds good.

I wasn't sure there was going to be a '70's guitar sound to match what I had in my head, but I finally found just the thing. It took a bit of tweaking to get it to set right in the mix, but the result was exactly what I was looking for.

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A nice write. Interesting lyrics throughout - especially the "choruses".

The interweaving of vocals is ASTOUNDING! Not an easy thing to do - an exceptional job. And at that point, the voices sound really good together.

I'm glad that the lyrics worked. I was tweaking them throughout the mixing process, up even past the final mix, as I noticed lyrics that didn't work. For example, I was typing out the lyrics getting ready to post the song here when I noticed the I'd intended to complete a line as:

maybe we got tired of waiting
for us to change


but actually ended it with a lyric that no longer connected the two lines together: blush

maybe we got tired of waiting
can't forget or forgive


Fortunately, it was super easy to jump into Synthesizer V, change the lyric and re-render the vocals.

I know the last couple of songs have had the same sort of "interweaving" vocal effect, but it's really fun to do, and I love the sound. For prototyping counter lines, I think this is where it's really nice to have synthetic voices. They don't complain about last minute changes to lyrics or melodies. wink

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The mix is SUPERB! This really POPS through my speakers.

Several listens. Worth it.

Awesome! I'll let "& Son" know. It really helps to have another pair of ears to bounce things off, especially since we'll often listen for different things.

The first thing he noticed was the snare and the lack of mids on the drums, and then getting the bass to sound like what I thinks a bass should sound like. I don't have the same sensitivity to gaps in frequencies, which is why Izotope is making a ton of money spectral balance tools to people like me.

He handed back a re-mixed version that was overly compressed, because ear fatigue had set in. Dialing everything down brought back the headroom, and putting an impulse response on the drum also brought in a lot of mids and lows.

Thanks for your encouragement! smile


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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
The best yet of these so far I think, David. Either you are getting better working with those synth vocals or they are starting to grow on me!

Hi, Dave.

Thanks, although I suspect it's the latter. wink

Ironically, throughout the composition process, I was thinking it was my worst song so far, but since I'd committed to it, I needed to finish it up. Fortunately, the lyrics finally fell into place and I got the melody and counter-line to work a bit better.

But funny how you can't tell when you're so close to it.

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Drums sound great! I would have said "loud and proud" but I see floyd beat me to it wink

Entire mix sounds fabulous through my studio 'phones.

Good song, enjoyed.

Glad to hear it, thanks! smile

I appreciate you stopping by to listen and comment.


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Originally Posted By: ROG
Fabulous. Loved the whole thing.

Thanks, ROG.

I'm really happy that it translated well to other people's speakers/headphones. And that you liked the song. smile

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When I looked at the number of rhythm instrument RTs in the list, I was expecting
the mix to sound cluttered and confused, but not a bit of it. Everything was clear
and the rhythms were working together like a well balanced machine.

Good to hear! I do tend to put in a lot of instruments, and this time I made an effort to stick with only a small number - at least, small number for me.

I think I mentioned that some of the instruments were playing similar roles, so that made it easy to decide to swap one out when another was playing. Plus, I really hate having a song sound the same all the way through, and staggering the instruments is an effective (and easy) way to do that.

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Something about the female voice, slightly unreal but haunting, really brought me out
in goosebumps and made me go back and play the track again straight away.

I think the vocal straddles the line between "overly pitch corrected" and "Vocaloid", which isn't a bad place to be. It's not quite human, but I think it is very musical. Most importantly, it isn't so distracting that it detracts from being able to pay attention to the song.

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It has the feel of one track from a "concept" album - as though it's part of a
story still to be told. Fascinating.

Wouldn't change anything. Your best yet.

Cool, I'll consider it done and start working on a new track of that "concept" album you mentioned.

I appreciate you taking the time to listen and post. laugh


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Hi David,

Good research work. Astonishing the result, in good. The arrangement is not overloaded with the sound tracks you list. This composition must have taken you many hours ? Very interesting this composition. Well done

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Hi Dave, This is really well-done!

First of all... the drums sounds perfect in the mix, so don't even consider turning them down... smile

I like the vocals - especially in the chorus... sounding very well there!

Sometimes I wish you would publish a song without telling us it is Eleanor, because if you listen to modern music and the so-called "popular songs" these days, many of them use a heavy amount of pitch-correcting software (like autotune), which sometimes makes it quite hard to hear if it is a real singer or a "vocaloid" performance. I think you would be able to fool us if you didn't tell us upfront that it is Synth V. wink

Anyway, I think this track is the best you have published so far with Eleanor... I liked it a lot!

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Well done. You are really getting the hang of that program (you already have the hang of BIAB). The "female" really belted out your superb lyrics. This sounds creepy, I know, but she sounds rather sweet. I'm not sure who did the male vocals (you or the program), but, either way, they harmonized with the female well. Cool song. Good music by the old stand by band too.

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Originally Posted By: Derochette
Good research work. Astonishing the result, in good. The arrangement is not overloaded with the sound tracks you list. This composition must have taken you many hours ? Very interesting this composition. Well done

Hi, Derochette.

Thanks!

I did spend a lot of time working out the melody/counter line. But most of that was because I during the mixing, I kept getting ideas of changes that I could make. The nice thing about using synthetic voices is that it's really easy to make changes to a vocal line, whether that's the pitch, the lyric, or some expressive parameter.

Thanks for listening and commenting! smile


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Originally Posted By: Will Josef
First of all... the drums sounds perfect in the mix, so don't even consider turning them down... smile

Hi, Will.

Noted! laugh

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Sometimes I wish you would publish a song without telling us it is Eleanor, because if you listen to modern music and the so-called "popular songs" these days, many of them use a heavy amount of pitch-correcting software (like autotune), which sometimes makes it quite hard to hear if it is a real singer or a "vocaloid" performance. I think you would be able to fool us if you didn't tell us upfront that it is Synth V. wink

Yeah, I think that's more a function of getting used to people overusing Autotune (guilty!), although I think Synthesizer V also sounds better than Vocaloid.

I've heard some Synthesizer V songs that have managed to be emotional and expressive. So there's certainly capability for the singing to be more expressive. That's something worth exploring a bit more.

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Anyway, I think this track is the best you have published so far with Eleanor... I liked it a lot!

Glad to hear it! smile


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Originally Posted By: jptjptjpt
Well done. You are really getting the hang of that program (you already have the hang of BIAB). The "female" really belted out your superb lyrics. This sounds creepy, I know, but she sounds rather sweet.

Hi, Sean.

Yeah, I also hear autotuned vocals as unnatural, but "sweet". I think there's an effortlessness to the singing, as well as a purity of pitch that triggers that response.

I haven't had to do a whole lot to "tune" the voice, other than try to get it in a good range, and adjust the phonemes for "American English" pronunciation. Synthesizer V sounds surprisingly good "out of the box", so to speak.

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I'm not sure who did the male vocals (you or the program), but, either way, they harmonized with the female well. Cool song. Good music by the old stand by band too.

That was also also the same program. There's a "Gender" parameter that automatically adjusts the position of the formants and some other attributes, and it does a pretty good job.

And yes - the band certainly earns their money. wink

Thanks for commenting! smile


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David,

This track really sounds great! Your mix is exceptionally good! It's clean with everything articulated and separated. The song has a really inviting sound to it keeping the listeners attention all the way! I agree with Dave in that these songs of yours just keep getting better! Take care, T

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You're really getting you hands around that synth vocal stuff.

Another great example of what can be done with some creativity and talent.

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David,
Without doubt, this is the best synth vocal I`ve ever heard- quite amazing on the chorus.
A flawless production; you combine Biab with other virtual instruments in a very professional way... but,the best news is, at the songwriters level, you are working with very good lyrics and structure.
I enjoyed this very much!

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Very cool song. It just blows me away how good that vocaloid is. I can only imagine how much work it is to put this together. Very well done


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Hi David ...

You and your son delivered again! As Scott said, I can't begin to imagine the amount of work you put into this. I love the harmonies of the vocaloid. Also, that strong percussion is super. I always like drums and percussions to be prominent ... with very few exceptions. Congrats and a difficult mission well executed. Some really good listening here. Take care ...

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Wow! The first few moments I wouldn't have known the vocals were synth had I not known. (If that makes any sense). I think your female synth is inching ever closer to being "real." The male synth not too bad either. I'm impressed.

The instruments sound good. Mix is good.

Really enjoyed the tune!

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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
This track really sounds great! Your mix is exceptionally good! It's clean with everything articulated and separated. The song has a really inviting sound to it keeping the listeners attention all the way! I agree with Dave in that these songs of yours just keep getting better!

Hi, Torrey.

I appreciate the encouragement!

The next challenge (in addition to continuing to write) is to get things to sound good in my car stereo. I played my last couple mixes there, and the results were pretty disheartening.

Thanks for having a listen. smile


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Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.

Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!

And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.

The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!

All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!

It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!

The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.

The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!

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