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Hi all,
anyone happy with the repeats and ending function in Biab?
I entered the chords last week from various songs into Biab and made my first experiences with the repeat and endings features using a da capo ending 1 and ending 2 brackets. Unfortunatelly I missed a bar near somewhere and needed to a a new bar in bracket 1 or 2 (I think in both cases I struggled with this use case). Anyway, I added the bar with the right click context menu which did not produce the expected results adding a bar right there an keeping the ending one and two structures in the expected order.
Anyone been lucky with adding or deleting bars when endings have been set before. I struggled for a while trying to get the intended result by simple and straight forward steps - to no avail. Finally I gave up, because making music was my intended leasure time goal.
Whta´s your experience - or is it a problem of this version only?
Cheers
Stefan
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being a simple soul i always 'unfold' complicated songs so i can see exactly what is going on where.
i do use the simple chorus and number of choruses settings on very simple songs but otherwise linear structure is so much easier to manage.
i've done it this way since i got BIAB on floppy discs.
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Feeling the hazzle I am on my way to this conclusion.
Yet, having been a conductor for some years I am happy with these structures. And it sounded promissing....
Thanks for your feedback Bob
Maybe there is again some druids trick to know.....
Cheers Stefan
DAW: Studio One 6.2 Pro
Interfaces: StudioLive AR12c, Scarlett 8i6
Windows 11 Professional
AMD Ryzen 9 4900H, 16GB, 3,30 GHz
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The unfolded (linear) structure can be easier to handle, but you need to be aware of the 255 measure limitation in BIAB.
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I have been using multiple endings since they first were introduced back in 2004 (I think).
There are some quirks, I agree, but in general they work just fine. I do use the unfolded methodology - I am not even sure they can work with the BIAB chorus repeats, since you need to know, by actual bar number, where the endings start and end.
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Hi Dave,
yes the chorus repeats added akwardness to the da capo endings 1+2. I therefore made the song to 1 chorus and as many bars I needed.
But in the end I got frustrated, that I could not achieve with "normal" reasoning..... and stopped my efforts.
Probably you have to make sure, that everything is perfect before you configure the endings as not to need add or delete bars after having the repeats set. But who is free from errors.
Cheers
Stefan
DAW: Studio One 6.2 Pro
Interfaces: StudioLive AR12c, Scarlett 8i6
Windows 11 Professional
AMD Ryzen 9 4900H, 16GB, 3,30 GHz
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Exactly.
The endings and DS are bar dependent, so if you add or delete a bar, you need to adjust the endings. This is done through the same dialog as you used to create it. You'll see a button at the bottom < Edit List >. This will take you to the list of repeats etc (you can have more than one set of repeats). Select the one you want and click <edit>. Make the change and click <make repeat>. Then <close>
Remember this process is non-destructive to your original song, so you can make as many changes as necessary. If you change the underlying song I usually find it is often easier the delete list entries and start again.
Watch out for the check box that says <Generate (insert) new bars. Most of the time this should be UNCHECKED
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