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Originally Posted By: Mike Halloran

Could you ask that in English please?
My signature displays my hardware and the apps I use. What are you missing?
I am quite upfront that what I use saves me time. I bill for my time and the apps I use save me money. Audacity, Reaper and MuseScore (and Dorico, Overture, Notion, Encore — all of which I have licenses for as well) do not.
Why do I have to explain to you?


Mike,
your response is a perfect encapsulation to make my case for me. Making a list? Checking it twice? Are you gonna find out what's cheap & what's nice?
Clearly you like what you have and a fair dollop of sophistry helps almost anyone do the same. You're not persuasive: pedantry rarely is. You're not influential: harping rarely is. You're not able to accommodate the views of others without giving your considered opinion in a way that reinforces your self worth. Crikey, live long and prosper.

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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
rayc.
much as i love reaps too i also think that pg's own powertraks is a superb deal also at 50 bucks.
ive lost count the number of times that bars view in powertraks rescued a session to fix up things ages ago.
(bars view isnt known by lots of people and tricks one can do with it !)
chock full of features includeing some really deep great midi features i used to like to show to people in days of yore that had spent loads of money on recording software
that didnt have some of the deep midi features of powertraks.
i started on powertraks , imho a superb product thats got better and better over the years.
in summary ..yes there are bad cheap products in the world BUT there are also excellent cheap products as well.
and powertraks and reaps are two great products imho.

my call is neither reaps nor powertraks are going away anytime soon and will continue getting better and better.
(psst pg LOL LOL powertraks on raspberry pi !)

best
om

Interesting JAOM,
I've not encountered it. I'm not disposed against it and will, based on your recco, give it a look. I am comfy with Reaper at present and do very little MIDI, (as little as I can get away with), but will give it a looksee when time permits.
I agree these "cheapies" aren't going anywhere soon and with Reaper being fully Apple Silicon ready/compliant they've an eye on the future and a user/developer base that's happy to push its boundaries.
Stay well.
THANKS


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Rayc.
g'day mate.
if you have biab you also have realband included which incorporates (and pg can correct me on this..just ask pg support) all the nice powertraks features as far as i know. but realband has the added auto accompaniement features of course.
thus you have all of the deep features of powertraks re midi etc as far as i know in realband.
i dont use midi as much now cos of real traks. but midi can be very very usefull.
if you want to delve into midi a lot further i would suggest going through all the pg vids // faq's etc on this pg site. and rb vids of course.
and at reaper.fm are a slew of midi reaps vids by grammy winner kenny gioia and also on you tube. at the reaps site just clik on vids. lots of them.
ps if not done so check out the reaper stash...
its huuuuuge.lol at reaper.fm

every happiness mate. ive lived all over the world.
hope to visit aussie some day with my wife.
OM

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Originally Posted By: rayc
Originally Posted By: Mike Halloran

Could you ask that in English please?
My signature displays my hardware and the apps I use. What are you missing?
I am quite upfront that what I use saves me time. I bill for my time and the apps I use save me money. Audacity, Reaper and MuseScore (and Dorico, Overture, Notion, Encore — all of which I have licenses for as well) do not.
Why do I have to explain to you?


Mike,
your response is a perfect encapsulation to make my case for me. Making a list? Checking it twice? Are you gonna find out what's cheap & what's nice?
Clearly you like what you have and a fair dollop of sophistry helps almost anyone do the same. You're not persuasive: pedantry rarely is. You're not influential: harping rarely is. You're not able to accommodate the views of others without giving your considered opinion in a way that reinforces your self worth. Crikey, live long and prosper.


Clearly, you don't actually read my posts. That's ok. I'm not writing for you.


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Originally Posted By: rayc
Originally Posted By: Mike Halloran

Could you ask that in English please?
My signature displays my hardware and the apps I use. What are you missing?
I am quite upfront that what I use saves me time. I bill for my time and the apps I use save me money. Audacity, Reaper and MuseScore (and Dorico, Overture, Notion, Encore — all of which I have licenses for as well) do not.
Why do I have to explain to you?


Mike,
your response is a perfect encapsulation to make my case for me. Making a list? Checking it twice? Are you gonna find out what's cheap & what's nice?
Clearly you like what you have and a fair dollop of sophistry helps almost anyone do the same. You're not persuasive: pedantry rarely is. You're not influential: harping rarely is. You're not able to accommodate the views of others without giving your considered opinion in a way that reinforces your self worth. Crikey, live long and prosper.


Clearly, you don't actually read my posts. That's ok. I'm not writing for you.


Mike, I think the problem is that you don't actually take in what other people write. Your post is pure projection flavoured with sophistry...(How about those grapes? Sour enough for ya?).
It appears, to me, you read others while deciding how to respond to/counter them. In other words you're reading of the words of me, for example, is an aggressive defensive preparation activity.
I am aware that you're not writing for me. That's easily divined as you are, most certainly, writing for you.
Your realm on the technical side of things is an important one and I do hope your efforts are fruitful. Sadly all science & knowledge needs the adjunct of good communication skills if it is to be embraced. That need, the ability to reach and explain to the grunt like me, is reasonably important.

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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
Rayc.
vids by grammy winner kenny gioia and also on you tube.
its huuuuuge.lol at reaper.fm

every happiness mate. ive lived all over the world.
hope to visit aussie some day with my wife.
OM

Thanks,
I subscribe to Kenny and am, almost, able to ignore his phrasing now.
He's very good at explaining and demonstrating in simple terms.
Bite sized phrases and bite sized knowledge.

Australia was a wonderful country...we've been heading down the hole for a decade though. Perhaps by the time you & your good wife visit we'll have or heads held high again.
THANKS!


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Rayc.
yeah those vids are good.
other "cheap daws" i'm keeping my eyes on are mixcraft,
samplitude music studio by magix and the harrison mixbus
product based on ardour i believe. <<harrison big studio console emulation in software.

you live in a beautifull country ray.
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Here's the You Tube video that walked me through trouble-shooting "Audacity will not record." As you might have guessed, it is in the system settings and the program preference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc6te_50myg


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