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Public service announcement. My browser's password check is reporting that my forum password for this site has been stolen. It recommended I change the password, which I just did. The breach was last year, according to the advisory. Who knows how it happened, assuming it did happen.


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Worthwhile advice Matt. Security is paramount on everyone's mind, yours included no doubt.

Which browser and which A/V software do you use?

Remember that an attack might be disguised to make it look like you need to update some details while those changes are then secretly recorded in the background by spyware - be particularly careful.

Advice to all: Don't use a common password for multiple different account accesses. If the password can be detected by spyware on a non-secure login, it can be used to attempt to attack many other locations.


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I have a different password for EVERY site I visit. I use random special characters, numbers, and gibberish words, some in foreign languages. I have them in a file on my computer but that file is password protected. I turn off my network when I am not sitting at the computer.

Remember how well things can be spoofed. People get email from banks and stores all the time that look official because the scammers use the images from the real web pages. Your BROWSER'S password check said this. I don't consider that to be "official". I would love to see a copy of that report. If you have a unique password here, and there has been no activity here that you cannot remember, I don't think you have anything to be concerned about. I got hit once a few years ago before I went to completely unique passwords. From that moment I turned off the password save option on my browser. If it protects me, I can live without autofill and spend the 3 seconds it takes to type in a password. Autofill causes a lot of people problems, as many as those who use the same password everywhere.

The main one is to change your email password often. IF that password is compromised, I can go to a web page, use the "forgot password" link and create web pages as you because they will send the reset link to an email account with a compromised password. The hacker can then see the new password, act on the email, delete it and remove it rom trash and you won't even know it happened.

The key though, as Trevor said, is to use a unique password everywhere. And I will toss in to turn off autofill.

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I wouldn't worry too much about it, my two main email addresses have been pwned for a few years now, I still use them, as long as I have the main mail client secure I don't worry that much.


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I, too, have a password manager and depending on the importance of the site I'm accessing, the passwords vary in length and complexity.

I use a VPN, even at home and especially on the road. If on the road, I'm very careful about the sites I visit even when the VPN is active.

For my customers, I'm even more aggressive about security. I do not download the Credit Card or PayPal information from my website, and instruct my shopping cart to delete the information.

After downloading name, address, e-mail and other info I move my customer's info to a computer that isn't on my network and never connects to the Internet. The hard drive of that computer is encrypted so even if someone breaks into my office and steals the computer, they won't be able to get my customer's info.

I feel it's my responsibility to go the extra mile to protect the information that people trust me with.

There are people out to get us on the Internet. Sure, they are a minority, but we have to protect ourselves.

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There was a major data breech with TrueFire quite some time ago but the password/email combinations just started showing up for sale on the dark web recently. Someone got as far as the dual verification on my Steam account before they were thwarted.


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Just so everyone knows, our servers were not hacked. Most likely the breach Matt's browser is warning him about is from another site where he used the same email/password combination as whatever he used on the forums here.

Personally, I have a multitude of different passwords for important things like my email, banking, and other important things, but for generic stuff like forums or anything where it can't access my personal information I use a generic password. It's possible to set up a password manager that will generate individual random secure passwords for every site you sign up for, but I personally found that to be overkill for most sites I visit.


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Well, a VPN won't protect you from anything but IP locating. It's not going to protect your passwords. The only thing that protects passwords is your diligence. No matter what kind of security you use your password is stored at the server you use it on so if they get hacked your password is compromised. There is nothing you can do about THAT happening, but you CAN be diligent about your passwords.

I just counted and I have 175 different places where I need a logon. No two have a combination of the same username and password. I may use "password" (obviously not THAT) on more than one place but it is also on a different email address, and I have 27 of those. All with different passwords. Those are in a text file on my computer that is password protected (and good luck random guessing THAT password - it's based on a foreign word and contains a number that only means something to me.) I also take the computer with that file off the network when I am not using it.

Even with all of that, consider this. If my logon here is username is EddieIsaRoyalPITA and the password is 525600Minutes, and someone manages to get their authentication file, what could I have do to prevent that? Even if their user auth files were stolen they wouldn't know it. The info may not be sold immediately, either. Users are on the losing end of every aspect of this. All we can do to stay safe is all we can do to stay safe. My KEY passwords get changed every 60 days, too. Be particularly careful with your email password. Change it every 60 days. A skilled hacker can do this. Change the email password, email you a file with a time bomb in it, access your email, execute the time bomb, and then create a snapshot of your computer that would allow him to order things masquerading as your computer that looks like it came from your chair. Order them to be delivered to another address, then call in a redirect to send it elsewhere, so the original address has nothing to do with his location. And you get the bill. Even if they don't CHANGE your email password, they can still log in with it, do their damage, delete the email, delete it from trash, and you may never know it ever existed. And a VPN will NOT protect you from that. A top black hat hacker doesn't need your IP to hurt you.

Disclaimer: Don't ask me how I know about any of that.

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Just so everyone knows, our servers were not hacked. Most likely the breach Matt's browser is warning him about is from another site where he used the same email/password combination as whatever he used on the forums here.
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Thank you, Simon. I hope it didn't sound like I was blaming anyone. I have always used a unique password for PG Music that I do not use elsewhere, so who knows?


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