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Walznhabibi - I think I've been emailing you about this. I've sent a bug report about it over to the development team, hopefully it's a quick fix.
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Thanks Simon. I hope its a quick fix too. I have 10 current song projects using the 2021 audiophile version and would love to be able to move forward with them as the styles are unique to this version.
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Walznabibi,
Have you tried running BIAB 2020 and pointing it to the Realtracks and Realdrums in the BIAB 2021 directories. This may allow you to access any of the RTs and RDs new to 2021 and to use them in BIAB 2020.
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Try what Noel says. Be aware there are some new RealTracks where the stated requirement is BIAB version 2021, but it's worth a try. You might not see them in the index, however.
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I'll give that a go and let you know what happens. Need to plug in both audiophile ssds.
edit#1: I just tried opening biab 2020 and then opening the sgu file on the 2021 ssd, but only the 2020 styles came up as options. Not sure if there is another way to do it.
edit#2: I'm wondering if I can copy and paste the 2021 stx and sty files to the style folder on the 2020 ssd, plus the relevant real track files from 2021 to 2020 ssd? Anyone successfully done this?
edit#3; Just tried it. It doesn't work. Some of the real tracks were on the 2020 ssd for one of the new 2021 styles, but even just copying the stx and sty files didn't work, even after 'rebuild'. Just have to wait for the bug fix I guess or use 2020 styles in the projects instead of 2021. Not a happy camper.
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When you opened 2020 and the 2021 SGU file, did you set the BIAB Realtracks and Realdrums preferences to point to files in x:\bb\Realtracks and x:\bb\Drums, where x: is the 2021 drive?
By default, 2020 will look for Realtracks and Realdrums on it's own drive. BIAB, however, is setup so that Realtracks/drums can be stored in any location. One only needs to modify preferences to point to those locations.
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I'll try that one and let you know what happens.
edit: I tried pointing to the 2021 ssd in the prefs boxes for real drums and real tracks. No joy. It looks to me like the actual style has to be installed by the 2021 app as well as the new real drums/tracks files for that style. And I have a feeling that if 2021 installs it 2020 won't read it. I reckon there is no forward compatability. From a software licensing point of view that makes sense, otherwise people could share new styles for free.
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Just installed the new 833 update to bb2021. It has not solved the problem. Still getting saw-tooth waves in real tracks which cause pops. The styles seem to play ok in the Style selector tab, but once I apply them to a chord sequence the problem appears - it is there when I play the song in bb prior to rendering. Once I render the files I can find the offending saw-tooth waves which coincide with the pops. So I think the problem is something in the bb 'file generating' code.
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just a thought that might help as a short term workaround. if you are exporting the BIAB tracks to your DAW have you tried opening the BIAB song in RealBand and exporting from there?
depends how much work you do in BIAB before you export as RB doesn't keep frozen tracks apparently but you can regenerate in RB much the same as BIAB them save as a seq file which is unchanging. may solve the problem in the short term.
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Are pops audible before you render or does it seem the issue occurs during the rendering process?
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The pops are there before rendering. That is why I believe they are occurring in the 'file generation' process. This issue was referred to the development team as a 'bug', but it doesn't look like they have fixed it yet.
I might add that there is something strange going on in bb2021 audiophile with acoustic stringed instrument real tracks. The quality has deteriorated considerably from bb2020. They all sound like time-stretching and pitch-shifting has been exaggerated, even when played at their original tempos.
bb2020 still works fine, but I am at the stage where I can't use bb2021 on any projects and ready to ask for a refund. Not happy.
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