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what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB #655340 05/12/21 08:40 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	For reasons being irregular in format song structure, my song is more than 255 bars (actually I think close to 400 bars) using RealTracks style. My question: Is there a workaround the 255 limit? Either in RB or BIAB, or is there a step-wise solution/workaround? My song is around 380 bars or round off to 400 bars... thaNKS IN ADVANCE

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB acidbent #655353 05/12/21 09:34 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,566 Melbourne, Australia	Currently there is a 255 bar limit in BiaB, which has been there since the program's inception. This restriction does not apply to RealBand. Certainly 400+ bars is possible in RealBand. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-05-13_5-48-56.jpg (102.27 KB, 206 downloads) Last edited by VideoTrack; 05/12/21 09:50 AM. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB acidbent #655369 05/12/21 12:51 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Simon - PG Music Product Manager Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,655 Victoria, BC	VideoTrack is correct, but I wanted to add that there is a limit of 2000 bars in RealBand. I work here

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Simon - PG Music #655387 05/12/21 03:20 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	I think the error is a "bug" of the RealBand. anybody has experienced the same thing? Im using RB (build 5)

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Simon - PG Music #655388 05/12/21 03:22 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	I think the error is a "bug" of the RealBand. anybody has experienced the same thing? Im using RB (build 5) Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music VideoTrack is correct, but I wanted to add that there is a limit of 2000 bars in RealBand.

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Simon - PG Music #655389 05/12/21 03:22 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	Thank you.. actually I tried in RealBand, then I hit a problem. I could not insert New Bars to an existing song , there's an error message "cannot insert bars beyond end of song" even if the song is just 400 bars long,,, Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music VideoTrack is correct, but I wanted to add that there is a limit of 2000 bars in RealBand.

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB AudioTrack #655390 05/12/21 03:24 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	Thank you... !! Thank you.. actually I tried in RealBand, then I hit a problem. I could not insert New Bars to an existing song , there's an error message "cannot insert bars beyond end of song" even if the song is just 400 bars long,,, Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Currently there is a 255 bar limit in BiaB, which has been there since the program's inception. This restriction does not apply to RealBand. Certainly 400+ bars is possible in RealBand.

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Simon - PG Music #655399 05/12/21 03:59 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,956 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music .. but I wanted to add that there is a limit of 2000 bars in RealBand. I don't think we knew that. Thank you. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Matt Finley #655405 05/12/21 04:27 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,566 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: Matt Finley Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music .. but I wanted to add that there is a limit of 2000 bars in RealBand. I don't think we knew that. Thank you. I didn't know the maximum length. I did try in the Help for anything that might have indicated and found nothing. So I just created a 400 bar song and generated it. BTW, Matt, 2000 is an unusual number, I might have thought 2047 or 2048. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB acidbent #655420 05/12/21 09:50 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Bob Calver Expert Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,997 Essex England	Acidbent have you tried changing the end bar setting? If you add bars there, the bars you are trying to add won't be after the end of the song page 44 of the RB manual shows you the start and end bar display Last edited by Bob Calver; 05/12/21 10:57 PM.

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Bob Calver #655445 05/13/21 03:35 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Chantelle - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Oct 2020 Posts: 836	Originally Posted By: Bob Calver Acidbent have you tried changing the end bar setting? If you add bars there, the bars you are trying to add won't be after the end of the song page 44 of the RB manual shows you the start and end bar display Here is a screenshot of where the start/end settings are. Also, do you find this happening if you create a new song project, or is it only happening in this particular song? Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) RB_start_end.png (19.81 KB, 149 downloads) Best, Chantelle

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Bob Calver #655449 05/13/21 04:05 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	yes i did change the end bar setting. still error... i think this is BUG with Build 5.. pls try it, insert bars in RealBand.. Originally Posted By: Bob Calver Acidbent have you tried changing the end bar setting? If you add bars there, the bars you are trying to add won't be after the end of the song page 44 of the RB manual shows you the start and end bar display

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Chantelle - PG Music #655450 05/13/21 04:07 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	yes i did change the end bar setting. still error... i think this is BUG with Build 5.. pls try it, insert bars in RealBand.. Originally Posted By: Chantelle - PG Music Originally Posted By: Bob Calver Acidbent have you tried changing the end bar setting? If you add bars there, the bars you are trying to add won't be after the end of the song page 44 of the RB manual shows you the start and end bar display Here is a screenshot of where the start/end settings are. Also, do you find this happening if you create a new song project, or is it only happening in this particular song?

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB acidbent #655522 05/13/21 11:23 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Simon - PG Music Product Manager Joined: May 2020 Posts: 1,655 Victoria, BC	acidbent - this problem happens for me too. I'll bring it up with the development team. I work here

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB AudioTrack #655530 05/13/21 12:21 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,956 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack BTW, Matt, 2000 is an unusual number, I might have thought 2047 or 2048. Yep, 2047 is what I would have expected based on 255 for BIAB. 0 through 2047 is a count of 2048, or 2 to the 11th power. Perhaps 2000 is arbitrary and can be changed easier than in BIAB? BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB Simon - PG Music #655545 05/13/21 03:43 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	so it's really a bug... thanks Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music acidbent - this problem happens for me too. I'll bring it up with the development team.

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB acidbent #655570 05/14/21 01:37 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	. what's the basic reason why BIAB has a 256 bar limit while the RB has 2000? .

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB acidbent #655575 05/14/21 02:50 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,056 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted By: acidbent . what's the basic reason why BIAB has a 256 bar limit while the RB has 2000? . BiaB is based on 8 bit technology. Thus the highest number you can get is 256. My goal this weekend is to move just enough each day so that no one pokes me to see if I'm dead or not. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB MarioD #655582 05/14/21 03:54 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP acidbent Enthusiast A Joined: May 2019 Posts: 33	thanks sir Originally Posted By: MarioD Originally Posted By: acidbent . what's the basic reason why BIAB has a 256 bar limit while the RB has 2000? . BiaB is based on 8 bit technology. Thus the highest number you can get is 256.

Re: what is maximum number of bars in both BIAB and RB acidbent #655596 05/14/21 05:18 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,566 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: acidbent . what's the basic reason why BIAB has a 256 bar limit while the RB has 2000? . The request to have the bar limit increased to a higher value has been around just about as long as Band-In-A-Box itself. Maybe one day this will happen. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

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