Originally Posted By: dathho
I have these same instability issue with BIAB 2021 on windows 10.
Crashes, Refuses to close, etc.
I also have an RME sound device.
It is rock solid with Cubase 11, MixBus32 7.0, and Native Instruments Maschine.

Using BIAB 2021 as a VST gives minimal problems.

These issues and the lock-in on a 44.1 sample rate are really turning me off to PGmusic.

This will be the last year I upgrade without the ability to test thoroughly first.

Regards

dathho - does BIAB work properly without your RME connected, using your internal sound card? Does the problem happen if you only have BIAB open and no other audio app?

Lock in on 44.1 sample rate only happens with ASIO, since BIAB has to lock sample rate with the interface. If you use WAS or MME in BIAB that won't happen.

Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
but i find it interesting that other 2021 users arent haveing similar problems.

I find it interesting I'm not having problems with my RME, if the problems in this thread are somehow tied to the RME device.

Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
1. i am aware that some/many studios use higher end interfaces like rme for higher recording and sampling rates eg 24 bit // 96khz.
2. given point 1 and the fact that biab likes 44.1/16 bit
is this a possible source of problems/conflict/crashes ?

This is often a conflict, and what I suspect is the issue for datho.

Point of clarification - BIAB likes 44.1, but 16/24/32 bit doesn't matter much. BB can operate with your interface set to 192k when using WAS instead of ASIO (possibly higher, my interface only goes to 192k).

Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
also datho if pg implemented multiple bit depths and sampling rates i suspect the real traks library would be HUGE.
which has user implications downloading in the future.
the download time would multiply and frustrate users.
lets take a piano RT it would have to have been recorded originally in multiple bit depths and sampling rates up to 32 bit 192 khz ?.
(pg can tell me if i'm wrong on this point.)

The Realtracks would be around 12.75 TB if they were 32-bit 192khz. They'd be about 4.8tb at 24-bit 96khz.

Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
maybe someone from pg will say "muso is out to lunch" and we can do that. lol.

Don't worry muso, we won't say that! Or at least, not in public... laugh

Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
in the interim datho it would be helpfull if you posted the following pics (otherwise the rest of us are guessing.)
.pics of your rme audio settings.bit depths and sampling rates.
.pics of your biab audio and midi driver settings.
.pics of your other music daw settings/bit depths/sampling rates. ie cubase and mixbus etc.
.pics of your win recording and playback bit depths and sampling rates

thus the rest of us plus pg simon who has rme can have a gander.

I agree, this would be very helpful!

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