Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
Charlie, this forum is called "Band-in-a-Box Wishlist". It is a place to...wait for it...make wishlist requests!

Your workaround is useful and welcome. And yes, convoluted, confusing and unlikely to be easily remembered at crunch time!

Not sure why you cannot accept that an easier way would be better?? I know you love to say "BIAB already does that" but this is a great example of why that just ain't always true.

The OP asked to be able to "highlight the bar and replace just that one phrase". That feature/functionality would be far, far better than the multiriff workaround you presented.

Thank you for your suggestion. I almost always learn a little something new from your posts like this but the original request was a great one and BIAB does NOT already do what was requested.



<< Unfreeze/regenerate one bar on one channel >>


Originally Posted By: The Soundsmith
Often there will be a near-perfect interpretation of an arrangement, just a bar or two that has an odd guitar chord or drum punch. It would be great to highlight the bar and replace just that one phrase.

I know RealBand can sorta do this, but a quick-fix change would be very helpful and time-saving.


Ok JohnJohnJohn. I've reposted exactly what the OP said and asked. What leads you to assume from his actual words, complete and in context, he's 'wishing' for a brand new, never before seen button to push so when he highlights a phrase that with one push of the new, never before seen button, it replaces just that one phrase? Why can't he be wishing for a way to accomplish the task in BIAB? He acknowledges he thinks it can be done in RealBand and he would like to do it in BIAB. Note that he states this is a situation he encounters often. He's been a registered user since 2014 and the capability to edit audio in BIAB has existed since 2014. Is it possible he wasn't aware of this and was correcting his audio files in another audio program rather than in BIAB? Seems possible since he references RealBand and puts his wish to be able to do the same in the "Band-in-a-Box Wishlist".

It's your assumption the OP wants something that doesn't exist when perhaps he's just unaware of what exists. He doesn't mention that he wants the program modified. You assumed the former and I addressed his actual question how to "highlight the bar and replace just that one phrase". Your 'solution' doesn't exist and mine explained two methods with an end result of achieving the exact request he made; To highlight the bar. Replace it with a quick fix, helpful, time-saving change in BIAB.

Yes, I'm aware this is the "Band-in-a-Box Wishlist". Yes, I'll gladly accept and embrace an easier method if one ever exists and is implemented. But in the meantime, I'll utilize the existing features\functionalities of BIAB and include them in my workflow. I'm certainly not trying to start an argument or speak bad of a wish but rather share information of existing methods to accomplish a task.

Nothing I posted in my reply should have any effect to the staff and developers at PG Music to whom all of these 'wish list' posts are directed. Surely you understand they're very aware of these workarounds I've suggested. Why do you assume they interpreted the OP's post to be wishing for a magic button rather than a way to perform the task in BIAB? Awareness may solve his problem. Even if it does solve the problem, PG Staff are still free to enhance BIAB with a future magic button to edit RealTracks with less convolution, confusion and hard to remember at crunch time. I'm hoping they do. I'll certainly use it. But when you say the workaround is convoluted, confusing and unfunctional, you're talking about PG Music's product not anything that's mine...

The same as Trevor, I'm all "for improving the current methods, to deliver a more user-friendly, flexible and workable solution." But I'm not sitting back on my thumbs for years not applying techniques I can use today, losing countless hours of better music production, pretending these techniques don't exist.

I believe a common thread between RealTracks and RealTrack multi riffs in BIAB and RB is that they both obviously and exclusively require editing of WAV audio. In RB, the track is already in WAV format, in BIAB, the RealTrack has to be converted to WAV. For whatever reason, and that reason is proprietary and unique to BIAB, they're the only company that can do it, since the inception of RealTracks, the source code is such that the code/audio relationship has been editing is done in audio (WAV) form. That's not likely to change since 1. It's always been that way and 2. In recent releases PG Music has made a lot of enhancements, improvement in the quality of the final audio. 3. These recent improvements and upgrades are all based on the existing method of how RealTracks are created and edited...

Proof to me that the above is correct is after reviewing the thread posted by Trevor from December 2019 when Multi Riffs were introduced, every audio (WAV) issue discussed has been corrected but not a single issue that requires re-coding how RT's are created have been. Just saying... The -1 offset and syncing issues for example.

I think we're in for a long wait for the magic button but also think you'll find the Audio Editor in BIAB to be very robust and able to provide you many features no other DAW in the world can offer, including RB. Using the Audio Editor on the Audio Channel and Utility Tracks gives you instant feedback to review your editing or added effects results. You can try out the Audio Editor in BIAB with assurance of familiarity because it looks and works the same as every other DAW. If you happen to have a newer version of BIAB with the Multi Riff feature and Utility tracks, all the better.

I don't post to a wish list thread to shoot down the request but to hopefully share my knowledge so a reader takes away a little more know-how about techniques that may assist them today with their song projects. I can't help it if PG Music staff and developers have come up with features/functionalities that can exactly produce results that a poster is either requesting a magic button or just knowledge of techniques they can use as a solution to situations they encounter often in their projects.

If you prefer I not post existing features and functionalities, techniques and processes let me know. It's not something I have to do.

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