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Thanx for the heads up Jim.
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Wow, this should be on everyones list. thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks Jim. Audacity is absolutely one of the best audio tools available.
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Thanks Jim. Audacity is absolutely one of the best audio tools available. Except for nearly all the commercially supported DAWs, IMO. I downloaded 3.0 and my opinion is unchanged. Great for the hobbyist who wants to spend a lot of time fiddling around to get everything right. Useless for pros who bill by the hour and are on deadlines. When Time=$$$, Audacity is the most expensive DAW there is. Second place still belongs to Reaper. Audacity is still free, true, and still worth every penny.
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A little harsh, but accurate. A lot depends on what level of user you are. I use an audio editor every day so I’m very skilled and can make any of several work. My DAW does something different.
Most of the time my workflow is BIAB, then DAW, then stereo audio editor.
You still need different tools for different functions. It also follows that if all you have is a hammer, ...
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Yes, I too have and use multiple DAWs and audio editors. In any week 3 to 12 new projects are released for online worship these days. If Studio One or Audition needed you to go through the levels of nit-noid tinkering that Audacity requires, you'd be an unhappy camper. For me, Audacity exists so that, when a student (or choir or band member during this pandemic) tells me he/she wants to use it, I can look at it again and make other recommendations. Unfortunately, I have to support what others use to generate the tracks I combined into the finished project. One look at this page is enough to cause "Oh hell no!" from me. New in 3.0 Then I downloaded to see it was even worse than that.
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audacity is simple for simple tasks. i would never dream of using it for music the way I use RB. but for recording 'what you hear' like radio programs or streaming music, normalising the file and converting to mp3 its ideal.
i know it does lots of other things but i'm not prepared for the learning curve when i have RB
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All. my opinions. 1.audacity. i think its great that products like audacity exist. anything that helps people with limited funds get their musical ideas down is wonderfull imho. when i read all these "daw software debates" on the net i often think to myself "i bet the hitmakers of the past and platinum and gold record record producers and songwriters woulod "still" produce hits if they only had one daw product. eg audacity in this case". "because thats their brilliance". the music biz is crazy imho. but ive been around the block enough and interracted with enough people in it way more talented than i , so i know its more than the gear/rigs used. if audacity was the only brand available i'm 100 per cent sure that the george martin/beatles combo would still produce "brilliance". they would probably be really happy with not haveing to worry bout limited no of traks. frankly "for me" , i like their early more raw songs eg on the "with the beatles" album. i like the energy of these early songs. 2. Reaper. all i can say bout reaper , haveing been a user since 0.99 release is, and i'm not trying to influence anyone away from their current daw "love". just read the write ups on it by sound on sound mag on their web site, and goodness knows how many other reviews of it. "then" peruse the many helpfull videos at reaper.fm done by grammy winner kenny Gioia . and read the zillions of comments on the web by people whove moved to it from other daw platforms. (there are also interesting threads along the lines of "can you produce a great record useing only reapers built in plug ins".) or, if really sceptical go to reaper.fm and ask users there why they moved to reaper. once again, i believe the martin/beatles combo would still produce hits if reaper was the only software available. ps. a thread that stunned me this week re apple and daw work. anyone know anything ? https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/1347895-audio-drivers-userspace-end-mac-proaudio-era.htmlbest. oldmuso
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I personally consider Audacity more an audio editor than a DAW. The program has several feature deficiencies I believe a DAW requires. I dislike that Audacity has little MIDI compatibility. As far as I know Audacity can not accommodate Acidized audio loops.
At the same time I really do not consider Audacity to be an audio editor in the strictest sense of the term. I believe editors should not require storage folder creation but instead rely on whatever storage container the audio file is stored in.
However, it is very good at performing the tasks I ask it to perform.
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I played with it for a week when moving from four track cassette to computer. It was too fiddly and mystifying for me so I quickly left it behind and took up Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.3 which I quite enjoyed for about 5 years as it was fairly intuitive PLUS I bought the manual. I moved to Reaper in 2010 to facilitate collaboration and have enjoyed it since.
Audacity doesn't do anything I can't do in Reaper.
I used to use WAVEREPAIR to record LPs for conversion to CD and I retain it for the occasional lopping of beginning/end when I've forgotten to edit properly when rendering in Reaper IF I've dithered to 16bit/144.1 1st.
Downplaying Reaper is corksniffing in the main.
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it's a good piece of software but as with all 'public domain' software it seems to lack any real support. Questions get the stock reply 'read the manual' often followed by a detailed description of which paragraph is relevant. In almost 100% of cases it would be quicker to answer the question 
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.. as with all 'public domain' software it seems to lack any real support. Questions get the stock reply 'read the manual' often followed by a detailed description of which paragraph is relevant. In almost 100% of cases it would be quicker to answer the question Yep Downplaying Reaper is corksniffing in the main. I hear you. When you're on a deadline and Reaper isn't behaving, just call Tech Support at … Oh wait, no you can't. Reaper doesn't have phone support. It's cheapware and you don't expect it so there it is. BIAB, DP, Pro Tools, Logic and many others do. Yes, even Logic.
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Mike Halloran. re "cheapware" and no phone support comments. i feel i must comment in reply about reaper and its superb capabilities that have served me well for around 14 years now. other users like pipeline can verify my comments. and there are loads of other pg users also, useing it. 1. at no time in my useage have i ever had a problem with reaper where i needed phone support. in fact ive found it so very easy to use i dont think ive ever had to ask for a rapid answer on the user forum (at reaper.fm). ive found also phone lines can get tied up, as my wife experienced "for the umpteenth time " THIS WEEK with a big (not music product) organisation. if i ever DID have a problem the reaper user forum is so heavily populated by users from all over the world, from what ive seen over the years, a rapid reply would be forthcoming. ive had so many problems over the years with various organisations phone support , you have no idea. ie waiting for ages. 2. imho (and ive worked in the past with some brilliant high level software engineers way better than i ) reaper is a superb piece of software engineering. (note i have no ties to the cockos company that develops it in any way whatsoever. just a registered user like i am with pg.) it was even brilliant way way back when i first tried it at 0.99 version. its now at version 6. if memory serves me well even the versions before version 2 had such features as automation/folders/small footprint includeing running from a usb drive/dongle free/mixing dx and vst plug ins (i can well remember useing pg's nice dx plug ins in early versions, and still do)/a raft of free plug ins that lots of people thought were the bees knees includeing pros, and still do/pdc if i remember/plug in resource useage/advanced audio routing/tuning out of pitch/ripple editing for radio ? and goodness knows what else etc etc etc. the list of features is endless even before version 2. at that time competitors did not have various of the foregoing features , thus your comments absolutely stun me. i would respectfully suggest you go on the reaper user forum, and ask both pro and non pro users from all over the world why they love reaper like i do. or an INDEPENDENT FORUM like www.gearslutz.com music computers section and ask the same question. (i also love my wife, biab and realband, and steak and kidney pie, and shelby mustangs and caterham sports cars lol << which i cant afford.) my prediction. the reaper steamroller will continue. all the best to you. oldmuso.
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Everyone has their personal preferences and specific needs. I use Audacity for almost every song I post. I find it does everything I need it to. And I am using using Audacity 3.0. But have used the previous versions prior to the 3.0 release a short while back. Perhaps my needs are considerably less demanding than most of you. But I am very pleased with it. Below is a song I recorded a few days ago using nothing but BIAB 2021 (Windows version). I sent the tracks directly from the BIAB chord input sheet to Audacity 3.0. After working the tracks over a bit in Audacity, I posted to Soundcloud and used their mastering software (it's an upgrade option at SoundCloud). I am very happy with the results. My wife is the vocalist. The backing tracks have been "touched" by nothing but the BIAB chord input sheet (no RB), Audacity and the Soundcloud mastering option. I think it came out really nice. The vocal was recorded through an AT2035 condenser mic into a Peavey Nashville 112 Guitar amp. I use the Peavey amp in lieu of a mixing board because I prefer the sound "color" it gives our vocals. I use the headphone-out of the amp and plug it straight into my desktop's mic-in port and record the vocals directly into Audacity and then adjust the vocal in Audacity. I then blend the vocals with the BIAB tracks already loaded into Audacity. I then send to a premade desktop folder as both a WAV file and a high bit rate MP3. I then upload to Soundcloud when I want to. Audacity is the closest thing I use to a DAW. But, again, perhaps my needs are far lesser than those of other folks. But, I do like the final sound I get using Audacity. So far, we've had 28 songs picked up for one opportunity or another using this very method. Not a single one of them went through a traditional DAW. No matter your needs, preferences, and wants, good luck to everyone with their music. Alan If you're interested, here's the link to our latest song (it's a 1960s era Bosaa Nova): https://soundcloud.com/alananddi/you-remix
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Nice testimonial for Audacity. I love using Audacity for single track waveform screen shots. The GUI or interface really lends itself to focusing attention on the track waveform instead of the program.
As with everything, Audacity is a nice tool to have in your production toolbox.
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Everyone has their personal preferences and specific needs. I use Audacity for almost every song I post. I find it does everything I need it to. And I am using using Audacity 3.0. But have used the previous versions prior to the 3.0 release a short while back. Perhaps my needs are considerably less demanding than most of you. But I am very pleased with it. ...If you're interested, here's the link to our latest song (it's a 1960s era Bosaa Nova): https://soundcloud.com/alananddi/you-remixHi Alan, what a gorgeous song! Di did a great job with the vocals! Thanks for sharing it and for sharing your workflow. I like Audacity, as well, and have downloaded the new version.
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Anyone else having a problem recording an audio stream with the new Audacity? I'm still trying to set the options, no luck yet. I have NCH Soundtap as a backup recorder, but still....(I do a bit of bouncing back and forth.)
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