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IMO almost anybody who records a song that Bob Dylan wrote sings it better than Dylan can.

This is absolutely factual, and can be applied to many of the greatest songwriters around. So many others took those songwriters' creativity and enhanced it. I'm not sure how to categorize that, but the result is worthwhile.


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The itunes library has 26 millions song. How original do you think your stuff is?

Do you think any pop band or singer does things the same way every time?

Every band plays what ever they can and want too. You may be able to play the same notes BB King played but I 100% assure you that you will not sound like BB.


Sergei Rachmaninov...know who this guys is? Let me see you play his stuff!

I totally get what Bob's booking agent was saying but... does "Yesterday" start with a G?

Got French Horns in your band? No? How are you going to do a certain Beatles song?

Note for note? Close but no cigar...lol

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“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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I totally get what Bob's booking agent was saying but... does "Yesterday" start with a G?

Now Billy, better not start creatin' problems with this one. The answer of course is: 'sometimes' grin grin grin

(How's that drone monitoring gadget goin' ? wink )


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There are builders who can build a house, but they depend on architects to draw up the plans, who also depend on structural engineers to make sure the plans will work and be stable.


architects = writers
engineers = producers/engineers
builders = performers

Different skills to be done by either 3 different people, 2 different people, or 1 person.

I am built in a way that I want NO "help" from a co-writer or producer telling me what he thinks. Like the house those 3 people work on, no 2 of them may have the same vision. I wouldn't want some builder telling me as an architect (I always wanted to pretend to be an architect! Token Seinfeld reference.) what he thinks and what he sees in his mind's eye.

When I write a song, I write what my mind's ear hears, and THAT is how it will be. Fly or crash, sink or swim, THIS sound is what I am after so just do what I wrote and shut up. Note that I have had not ONE bit of success as a writer, so there's that...

A guitar player from a band back in the 80s, and a forever cover band guy who has never written a song (largely because he doesn't believe he can do it, thus he never tried) once posted how he buying those pre-prepped meals where they do all the work and you just toss it in a pot. I mean, someone else assembles your protein, your starch and your veg, portions it out to the right size, includes measured out seasoning packets, and ships it to you with directions that say "Sprinkle packet A on protein B and fry for 5 minutes per side." And YOU really cooking? And I couldn't resist posting on his timeline "So just like your music, you are a 'cover' cook too?" and we had a good laugh about that.

I am really in my own special place about music and the reverence it deserves. Some people believe in god. Music is my God.

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I totally get what Bob's booking agent was saying but... does "Yesterday" start with a G?

Now Billy, better not start creatin' problems with this one. The answer of course is: 'sometimes' grin grin grin

(How's that drone monitoring gadget goin' ? wink )


Starting to commence to began with the drone. The issue is good ones from Japan cost $30,000 to $50,000 dollars. I am trying to decide if I want to take on the project of building one. Building the drone is the easy/fun part. Doing all the programing for the automatic GPS control/camera/chemical spray system and passing some OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) requirements is a lot of hard work.

There are many issues with flying drones here. The FAA has not got their act together yet. I have a commercial pilots license so me getting a drone license is pretty easy. As it will only be used on our land there are fewer issues.

It feels like a lot of money. Then again the tractor cost $70,000 and the boom sprayer cost$40,000 that we are currently using plus paying a guy to drive it.

Anyway I got portant stuff to do at the moment...lol


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We were never a cover band. We were never a original band. We were just a band and did the best we could with what we had on any given night.

I have played a lot of covers. At the end of the day they had a lot of influence on my own stuff.

All this thread got me to thinking about what I really like. I liked the people I met and not so much copied there songs but copied their style.

I have been very fortunate to have been friends with many famous and not so famous blues men. I miss them all.

I have sang this Sunnyland Slim song a million times. https://youtu.be/XZyatrh2Wls

He was a really nice guy I got to play with a few times. Him and perhaps a couple of others influenced me to play this sort of thing. https://soundcloud.com/planobillydfw/sunday-morning-blues-on

Thanks for reminding me of where I have been.

Billy

I have never been motivated by money alone in any of the many endeavors that I have been involved in. I always tried to give the people I worked for as much as I was able.
That includes my own companies. I never considered any one thing to be my only source of income. I never considered any one thing to be my only joy in life.

EDIT: The guitar player on Johnson Machine Gun Is Muddy Waters.

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“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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I just like good songs.

I've tried to write songs, but for me the words get in the way. Everything I write just sounds corny, I guess I haven't mastered the metaphor.

I like improvising solos to other people's songs. I get to improvise a solo on almost every song we do. When I make my backing tracks, I make sure to put in a part for me to create a solo on the spot.

I like playing different instruments, sax, flute, wind synth, guitar, bass, drums and keyboards.

I like emulating other instruments on the wind synthesizer, the physical modeling Yamaha VL70m synth does a nice job on many instruments.

I even like singing (the voice is the most difficult instrument I've learned).

I like money, but as long as I have enough to make ends meet, I like fun and interesting experiences much more.

We gigged last night, post-pandemic. It was a pool party at a huge mobile home park where the winter residents were saying good-bye to each other before they went back up-north for the summer.

We played music from 1955 to the 21st century. We played some Buffett, Clapton, Cars, Elvis P, Bob Marley, Dion, Etta James, Blondie, Booker T/MGs, Stevie Wonder, and dozens of others. Some were what I call covers, others what I call semi-covers (not like the original). The dance area was full, we had a great time, the audience had a great time. It was a party, and we were the life of the party.

The two and a half hours went by way too quickly. We were even having too much fun to take a break. There were hundreds of songs we didn't get to play.

At the end of the night, the host and dozens of people told us how much they enjoyed the music.

We packed out, went home, took showers, and at the end of the day we had a great day together. It was like 2019 all over again.

I'm having a great life.

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You missed the part where you got to go home with a gorgeous wife who is your perfect mate. That would be worth more than the gig money to me.

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You missed the part where you got to go home with a gorgeous wife who is your perfect mate. That would be worth more than the gig money to me.


You are correct. She is definitely is worth more than the gig money. But we need the gig money to pay the bills.

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You missed the part where you got to go home with a gorgeous wife who is your perfect mate. That would be worth more than the gig money to me.


That describes me also!

Notes, you and I are very fortunate men.


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There are some folks who would have to chain a woman up in the basement to keep her around.


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There are some folks who would have to chain a woman up in the basement to keep her around.


So you KNOW my last wife?

A whole string of psychiatrists have tried to figure me out. Now THEY are angry all the time too!

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Anybody who is a foodie knows Jane. I have her Book.



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Anybody who is a foodie knows Jane. I have her Book.



Ah. So YOU were the one who bought it!!!

Did you follow her internet series "Second Helpings"? I was the other half of that.

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Notes: Will you guys get your regular Tuesday gig back this fall (Little Jim's)? Didn't that place just change hands not too long ago? Or am I confused?

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Ah. So YOU were the one who bought it!!!


My wife and I met Jane at a book signing about 11 years ago. It was relatively recently that I saw both your names on the same page of something I was reading, and I replayed some of the things that you said about your ex in my mind, put two and two together, and realized what the connection was.


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You missed the part where you got to go home with a gorgeous wife who is your perfect mate. That would be worth more than the gig money to me.


That describes me also!

Notes, you and I are very fortunate men.


I count myself in that club.

It is truly amazing how much hardship a loving relationship gets you through. My wife was diagnosed with stage 2 breast cancer in March of 2020, which subsequently was identified as stage 3 when the surgery was done. During part of her after care I started having issues of my own with multiple episodes of syncope that I thought were due to a bleeding esophageal ulcer. One episode put me in the hospital for 3 weeks when it occurred while I was handling scalding hot water and that resulted in 2nd and 3rd degree burns on my foot and two skin graft surgeries. COVID-19 was epidemic in Mobile at the time, and I spent 48 hours in a hallway being cared for before I could get a room. Even though we have a 10 bed, state of the art burn ICU at the University Hospital, I was finally admitted to one of the medical floors because the Burn ICU was completely taken over by COVID patients. No visitors allowed of course and my wife had just started going through the stage of her treatment where her hair fell out. She just had her port removed about 4 weeks ago just in time for another syncope episode for me and a hospital admission that identified Congestive Heart Failure. They pushed IV lacix for three days and I lost 34 pounds of water weight.

This was not how we expected to spend our retirement years, but we DID expect to spend them together. Yes, we are fortunate. Even if given the choice, I would rather be not healthy and having the relationship that we have with each other, than perfectly well and being alone.


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Sorry to hear about your health problems. The wife and I both have had our share also. Both of use have had cancer and we both have asthma. She broke her hip (that's what they called it but it really is the femur where it connects to the hip. This recovery is worse then an actually broken hip). Plus we both have other "old age" problems.

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Even if given the choice, I would rather be not healthy and having the relationship that we have with each other, than perfectly well and being alone.


I agree!


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You missed the part where you got to go home with a gorgeous wife who is your perfect mate. That would be worth more than the gig money to me.


That describes me also!

Notes, you and I are very fortunate men.


I'm happy for you.

I only wish everybody was this lucky.

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Notes: Will you guys get your regular Tuesday gig back this fall (Little Jim's)? Didn't that place just change hands not too long ago? Or am I confused?

The new owners are undecided at this point. Perhaps they are waiting to see how the economy does and/or if the border between the USA and Canada is reopened. I don't know, they aren't as sharing about their thoughts with us as the old owners were.

Since we don't usually return until October or November, we'll put out a feeler, probably in August. If not, there are some other places we think might work, but we won't approach them until we get a better felling about what Little Jim plans. After 12 consecutive years, it's our first choice.

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