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Microsoft +++ revealed +++ it will stop support for Windows 10 on October 14th, 2025. Microsoft has scheduled an event to introduce the next version of Windows on June 24th, 2021. Microsoft anticipates the transition to the next version of Windows will take around four years. The announced end-of-support timeline puts the Windows 10 lifecycle at a hair over 10 years. This is similar to previous operating system iterations.
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Good find Jim, and it appears that the speculation Matt had noticed were correct.
I wonder what's in store for the next exciting episode? Not more bloatware, I hope.
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Good find Jim, and it appears that the speculation Matt had noticed were correct.
I wonder what's in store for the next exciting episode? Not more bloatware, I hope. I might be able to answer this. Microsoft will take the same old items and put then in different places. They may even rename a couple of them. Plus if it is something that you use a lot, say like Device Manager, then they will eliminate it or even worse make it less useful, much like the current search. Oh yes they will also set up your machine like they want it. 
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I can't remember a company providing a no longer support date on a current product BEFORE they have released its replacement.
At least they could tell us how much better the as of yet unnamed replacement will be.
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It really does not matter what Microsoft does. Most of us are going to use their crap anyway. What real choices do we have? Mac? Linux? These poor guys need money. They have pay for coral reef damage in the Cayman Islands done by their $300,000,000 yacht.  Billy
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I can't remember a company providing a no longer support date on a current product BEFORE they have released its replacement. Huh? The end of life for 10 is in 2025. The next version, according to the thread here, is going to come far sooner. They are having an announcement event 10 days from now. It will likely come out in 2022.
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I'm a Windows user since Windows 95. A Linux user since 2003.
With the introduction of Windows 8 and Windows 10 my enthusiasm for Windows faded away. I really don't like the direction that Microsoft is going with Windows 10 with every feature update.
Recently I got myself a MacBook and I'm pretty surprised how well it deals with audio.
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Didn't Paul Allen die 3 years ago?
I bought a Mac 10 years ago.
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Hope never to turn it back on.
A Mac is far from universal goodness, but its a better computing platform for me.
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I can't remember a company providing a no longer support date on a current product BEFORE they have released its replacement. Huh? The end of life for 10 is in 2025. The next version, according to the thread here, is going to come far sooner. They are having an announcement event 10 days from now. It will likely come out in 2022. Exactly. That's what they did. That's all I said. Exactly.
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I may be joining you in the Land of Mac soon here. Getting tired of Micro$oft.
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I can't remember a company providing a no longer support date on a current product BEFORE they have released its replacement.
At least they could tell us how much better the as of yet unnamed replacement will be.
Yeah, that's a new one on me too. They haven't even shown us the replacement before they announced when Win10 will die. I bought a Mac 10 years ago.
Ran it alongside a win7 & win 10 PC for about 8 years.
Turned my PC off a year ago.
Hope never to turn it back on.
A Mac is far from universal goodness, but its a better computing platform for me.
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I agree. I switched to Mac full time (except for gaming) in around 2005 when it was still PowerPC, and haven't looked back. There are a LOAD of improvements I'd make to Mac OS and Mac computers if I had the power to do so, but what they have currently is still miles better than using any Windows machine. Not to say that Windows computer hardware is no good - I have had very good luck with certain brands of laptops and custom built desktop components in the past and present. I may be joining you in the Land of Mac soon here. Getting tired of Micro$oft. Make sure to max out the computer as much as you can when you buy it - many of them can't be upgraded later! That's not as big of a downside as most people think - Apple computers tend to hold their resale value quite well, so you can always sell it and buy a newer one for not a lot more than it would cost you to pay for upgrades (and often less than the cost of paying someone to upgrade it for you).
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Agree with Simon's last post on maxing out the MAC hardware when you purchase.
I purchased a fully tricked out top of the line macbook pro 10 years ago.
It cost real $$$ but It still does the job with Logic Pro X and BIAB Mac.
I am considering buying a new mac mini with the M1X chip if they become available soon. it will have at least 16gb ram and 2TB ssd.
that new mini could be a real badass at about $2k.
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I remember when Windows 95 came out back in, oh, about 95! I was one of those idiots you saw on your local 11 pm TV news broadcast lined up to get into the store at midnight to buy it. That was in the days of CompUSA and the store I went to was giving away a manual for free that was so thick it had enough paper to burn for home heat!
That was on a Thursday night/Friday morning at midnight. I went home, installed it and spent the next 40 hours listening to the computer beep at me as I made mistakes. With no sleep. My roommate and I took breaks only to get more pizza.
That was my first real exposure to how the world manipulates us. They invented a convenient silicon shortage and told us that RAM was going to go up in price because of it. I was running a Pent1um 100 at the time with 8 MEGS, yes, MEGS, of RAM. That day, Saturday, I went to a computer store to buy another 8 MEGS, yes, MEGS, of RAM. It cost me $325!! * GB now costs about $40. So they caught us by the short hairs because everybody who ran Windows 3.1 was going to have to upgrade their RAM before 95 would run. I remember how convoluted 95 seemed. I got call after call because of memory paging errors and put a band-aid on them by making the swap file bigger. Then a utility came out to clear the memory of whatever leakage had happened as people opened and closed programs, and that helped some. Them come the nightmare that was 98, then ME, then 2000 which everybody confused with the Millennial Edition (which didn't play well with AOL). I can't even tell you how many people I had to back-rev who put the newest AOL on the newest Windows. It would go to the first web page and then every one after was "Page cannot be displayed". And this was so long ago people were on 1200 baud dialup modems. Can you imagine having to reload AOL every time you wanted to go to a different web page? Hang up, dial back in, log in...
I'll never forget seeing Gates do a demo of 98, telling us all about USB and the live swapping ability is offered. During the demo be plugged in a scanner and the computer totally went dead. Powered itself off and everything. Everybody in the auditorium laughed violently, and he calmly looked at the camera and said "Well, that's why we're not shipping it yet."
What is Mac up to now, and what is the animal name? I remember Snow Leopard but that's the last one I remember. That was what, like OSX?
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that new mini could be a real badass at about $2k. The current Mini is more powerful than my heavily upgraded 8-core Mac Pro from 2009, even if I were to upgrade it to 12 cores! I remember when Windows 95 came out back in, oh, about 95! I was one of those idiots you saw on your local 11 pm TV news broadcast lined up to get into the store at midnight to buy it. That was in the days of CompUSA and the store I went to was giving away a manual for free that was so thick it had enough paper to burn for home heat!
That was on a Thursday night/Friday morning at midnight. I went home, installed it and spent the next 40 hours listening to the computer beep at me as I made mistakes. With no sleep. My roommate and I took breaks only to get more pizza.
That was my first real exposure to how the world manipulates us. They invented a convenient silicon shortage and told us that RAM was going to go up in price because of it. I was running a Pent1um 100 at the time with 8 MEGS, yes, MEGS, of RAM. That day, Saturday, I went to a computer store to buy another 8 MEGS, yes, MEGS, of RAM. It cost me $325!! * GB now costs about $40. So they caught us by the short hairs because everybody who ran Windows 3.1 was going to have to upgrade their RAM before 95 would run. I remember how convoluted 95 seemed. I got call after call because of memory paging errors and put a band-aid on them by making the swap file bigger. Then a utility came out to clear the memory of whatever leakage had happened as people opened and closed programs, and that helped some. Them come the nightmare that was 98, then ME, then 2000 which everybody confused with the Millennial Edition (which didn't play well with AOL). I can't even tell you how many people I had to back-rev who put the newest AOL on the newest Windows. It would go to the first web page and then every one after was "Page cannot be displayed". And this was so long ago people were on 1200 baud dialup modems. Can you imagine having to reload AOL every time you wanted to go to a different web page? Hang up, dial back in, log in...
I'll never forget seeing Gates do a demo of 98, telling us all about USB and the live swapping ability is offered. During the demo be plugged in a scanner and the computer totally went dead. Powered itself off and everything. Everybody in the auditorium laughed violently, and he calmly looked at the camera and said "Well, that's why we're not shipping it yet."
What is Mac up to now, and what is the animal name? I remember Snow Leopard but that's the last one I remember. That was what, like OSX? I remember installing MS DOS from floppy discs - does that date me?!? Mac is on to mountains and locations now - El Capitan mountain, High Sierra, Mojave, Catalina island, Big Sur... The current version is Mac OS 11.4, Big Sur.
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Them come the nightmare that was 98, then ME, then 2000 which everybody confused with the Millennial Edition (which didn't play well with AOL). I can't even tell you how many people I had to back-rev who put the newest AOL on the newest Windows. I thought that Win 98 SE (Second Edition) was the best OS of the time and did fix most of the mistakes of 95 and 98. That was actually my stable OS for a long time. I completely skipped ME and later Vista. I had hung on to XP for quite a while too as that was a good OS. After that, no issues at all with Win 2000, 7, 8, & now 10. <RANT>I think one reason I've had no issues with Win OSs is that since Windows NT/2000, I've put in my 40 hours a week in IT working in them. Most companies you work for in IT have their company standard OS which these days is usually the most recent Win version. So you don't have much choice other than to learn and work in the OS. With all those hours spent you definitely learn to get around the deficiencies to the point you no longer see them. That's why typically when M$FT releases a new Windows version, I jump on it right away for my home machines. I get excited to get those hours in and get sh%& figured out. Just another perspective.</RANT>
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I remember installing MS DOS from floppy discs - does that date me?!?
My first OS for a personal computer was on cassette tape. Does that date me?
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