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I don't want any software I have to go back to school to learn. (Which I did for Pro Tools.)

LOL, it's not that bad and you're not that dumb.......




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Actually, I'm not overly worried.

They will maintain Windows 10 for some years yet, and progress is inevitable, otherwise we'd still have DOS 3 or Windows 3.1 (and be driving T-Model cars).

Nothing will stop such progress, but there is a choice: get on the bus, or stay at the bus stop. Ultimately, it's a user choice.



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Exactly why I like being a boat rocker, Trev. I believe the only boat that doesn't rock is the one that's dead in the water.

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LOL, it's not that bad and you're not that dumb.......


Hey! Don't underestimate my level of stupidity! LOL

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Exactly why I like being a boat rocker, Trev. I believe the only boat that doesn't rock is the one that's dead in the water.

Eddie, c'mon ! I've never known you to be rock the boat! What gives? grin grin

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Thanks, everyone, for chipping in on that MS Paint situation. I have been working with Paintdotnet; so I do appreciate those suggestions and will dig in. When Illustrator went to the cloud, I figured it was time to bow out. I have irfanview loaded and working. So far, so good.


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I have irfanview loaded and working. So far, so good.


Can you edit with Irfanview like you could with Paint? I always found it to be only a viewer.

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I have irfanview loaded and working. So far, so good.


Can you edit with Irfanview like you could with Paint? I always found it to be only a viewer.
Press F12 and a Paint toolbar appears.

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Nice. Thanks.

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I just took a look at windows 11. On the surface of things it is not a huge change. Who knows what will happen if you install it.

Here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJR3-UtmoUU

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I just took a look at windows 11. On the surface of things it is not a huge change. Who knows what will happen if you install it.

Ugggh, the guy said they are taking ability to start with a local user account away. That's something I like to do as I try to avoid all the Microsoft Store. We'll have to see if they can be created after initial Windows setup. They are integrating store stuff more and more with each release, making it more difficult to avoid it.




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If I have to log in with a Micro$oft account, it's absolutely time to turn to Mac. That is too controlling for me. It's bad enough they phone home so often to check my license key. Time to move on.

EDIT: Correction since publishing: You can sign into Windows 11 using a local account (although it's not quite as intuitive as you might think!). When it asks for your Microsoft account details, click "sign-in options" and then select "Offline account".

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When it asks for your Microsoft account details, click "sign-in options" and then select "Offline account".

Good, I didn't see that. That's how it is in 10.




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Correction since publishing: You can sign into Windows 11 using a local account (although it's not quite as intuitive as you might think!). When it asks for your Microsoft account details, click "sign-in options" and then select "Offline account".


Is this true for Windows 11 Pro and Home? Last time I checked for Windows 10 this was only allowed in the Pro version.


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I have irfanview loaded and working. So far, so good.

Can you edit with Irfanview like you could with Paint? I alwaysfound it to be only a viewer.


Eddie: Venturing into the ol' You Tube tutorial jungle, Jim Lindsay on select>crop>resize.
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That's pretty cool to know for Irfanview.

It's always the F12 key that opens magic stuff, like in a browser smile


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heres a rare "mini rant"/thoughts from me on how us consumers of tech can protect ourselves in the coming years.
(like many pg users i worked in tech for a few years)
1. win 11. if its user friendly and doesnt get in my way i'll probably upgrade after waiting awhile to see if it causes any user issues..particularly for recording rigs like mine that are kept off the net because i want my rig kept clean of stuff or any possibility of viruses etc.
if it boots fast i'll be interested in win 11 and IF
particularly it helps recording rigs run better.
my recording rig boots fast in 5 secs or so cos its not loading all the security stuff // anti virus etc that my pc on the the net does...however if win 11 is very intrusive and wants to control my life...forget about it. in this case i'll again buy refurb pc's with win 7 or 10 on. for many years now day in/out ive done songs useing refurbs with nary a problem. with no bloatware either and never a crash. if i'm really pushed i'll find a way to do songs useing linux on refurb pc's/. and as i do now use my cheap 80 buk amazon tablet for the net/surfing/researching stuff. love it.
2. Apple. i would love an m1 mac like an imac. but i quell my lust for one by asking myself how long before its obsolete and replaced by an m2 imac ?
for me as a consumer the price of an imac is not trivial,
and i have other family commitments. just simple stuff like paying the never ending monthly utility bills.
i feel my whole darn life is bills and taxes.
my main concern with going to mac is how long will my financial investment last ? before a new model comes out ?
maybe in a couple of years buying a refurb m1 imac with warranty is a shrewder approach ? save money and any tech kinks ironed out ?
my overriding concern is...is apple (like the iphones) adopting a strategy to tempt mac users to buy a new mac model every year or so ?
if thats the strategy..sorry ..no can do ; i have other financial priorities. if however there was an upgrade path for existing users of m1 mac hardware...depending on pricing...i would probably be more interested.
another strategy is just buy older powerfull mac
refurbs that are cheap with warranty. there are lots.
3. in closeing i'm watching carefully developments on the raspberry pi computer thats sold now apparently over 30 million units worldwide. and is attracting many devs to it.
if i'm pushed now that pi runs reaper and traction daws, thats another possible future option. particularly as its 80 buks. if the pi gets a 3ghz processor i reckon things will get very interesting. cos more developers will get attracted to the platform.

why is it i get the feeling a lot of big organisations try and control my life these days ? its tiring and i'm fed up with it.
i'm sure lots of others feel the same.

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I was long a hardware geek with PC's
I swapped out cpu's, changed ram & HD's, video cards, overclocked, even watercooled.
I don't do any of that anymore.

my take on mac hardware is much simpler:
I buy a current model new with near maximum hardware configuration and it lasts me a decade without modifications.

My current macbook pro is almost 10 years old and works fine for biab and Logic Pro. Both of those apps are reasonably resource intensive.
I have not thought about upgrades or tweaking during the period.
It just chugs along.
No drama

The new Mac Mini with the M1x chip interest me. Hopefully we'll see those by years end. I expect a maxed out config to come in around $2k.
About half what I paid for my Mac 10 years ago.
Good value to me.

My MacBook pro may still be worth $500 or so on the used market also.
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1. re keeping a computer for 10 years.
yeh i get it. but unfortunately i dont have your patience. lol.
what the heck happened to moores law that said "power would double every 18 months" ?. it seems ages its taken to get to 3/4ghz processors. laws of physics of course.
2. paying 2k for computer. this is where i get in a quandary.
i can get dual xeon refurb "beasts" of pc's for 600 bucks with all the trimmings (eg hp z ). OR if i'm tempted to pay 2k to 3k for a pc ;
i would have to consider one of the custom pc's from custom builders of turnkey recording pc's that the big recording studios buy.
just pure dsp beasts that run huge trak and plug in counts.
eg...check these out....
purrfect audio, rok box, adk pro audio, scan.co.uk etc
eg this very extreme pc up to 384 ddr4 of ram and xeons all the way. wowser.
https://silentpc.com/daw/studio-digital-audio-workstation
the above really cranks me up.
gotta win the lotto lol.

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