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Obviously there is no objective answer to this question.
However, I am curious about this. Does any use still use a Yamaha arranger keyboard if you already have BIAB?
Does an arranger keyboard still have an important role in your musical life, which cannot be replaced by BIAB?
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Yamaha arranger keyboards still remain important to my musical productions. Although my productions have been recently sidelined, prior to my hiatus from music, two friends that are both professional keyboardists, were instrumental collaborators to many of my projects. They both own and play several different keyboards but daily players for both were Yamaha PSR-910's. One also plays a PSR-750 I believe as well as a vintage Hammond B# with Leslie  . Although I can only play a keyboard minimally, I still own and use on occasion, a Yamaha PSR-670.
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BiaB and arranger keyboards are similar tools, but they do have significant differences.
BiaB can have more patterns, and since it knows what the next chord is going to be before it plays, if the style author is good enough it will play an appropriate variation at the right time.
Arranger keyboards often have tighter unison parts, especially during rolls (although there are fewer of them), and extended intros and endings.
Both tools having different strong points might make one or the other better for a specific song.
Personally, I think having more choices is a good thing.
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I have a Yamaha Genos Arranger/Keyboard, that I've used to create backing tracks (I'm a singer) when I couldn't find a suitable method in BiaB. An example is Gilbert Becaud's "Sand And Sea" ("Plein Soleil"). I wanted a Hawaiian Uke strumming rhythm that BiaB just doesn't have. (Why it doesn't have this, I don't know!)
I've used the Genos for several others, not because something was missing in BiaB, but I simply liked the sound the Genos produced.
I was a Tyros owner and player previously, before upgrading to this wonderful new keyboard by Yamaha.
Dave in Cairns, Qld.
Last edited by DaveStygall; 07/19/21 11:35 AM. Reason: Spelling corrections
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I loved my little Yamaha QY-10 before I bought BIAB in the early 1990s.
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QY10, That brings back memories. I had one of those then bought the QY700 which I still have packed away somewhere. These things were very clever in the day, but BIAB is so much simpler to use, not to mention better overall.
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