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Hello Folks,
Here's the latest song from Robert, Scott & I.
Scott plays lead guitar and has a fair bit of space to stretch out within the confines of this one. He also mastered the track.
Robert sings the verses and verse harmonies as well as the chorus.
I play bass and some additional guitar bits here'n'there.
Band In A Box provides the excellent drum track as well as being the writing, structuring and collaboration tool for the song.
Some Mellotron, courtesy of files made from actual Mellotron tapes, was cut'n'pasted into the mix too.

Une Riposte

A simple enough tale of modern times that evolves over three verses.

Lyrics:
Enmity endures
While pain inures
The victim demurs
And avarice procures
While enmity endures
Agent provocateurs
Grubby overtures
Historian abjures
Authority assures
Still enmity endures


When you
Speak out about them
The ranks close
and the hand shake prevails
When you
Speak up once again
The spike of power impales
Stealing breath as you inhale
When you
Speak
out

Hope still endures
Experience inures
Aggressor demurs
And courage procures
While enmity endures
Truth's provocateurs
Payoff overtures
Magistrate abjures
Solidarity assures
Still enmity endures


When you
Speak out about them
The ranks thin and
the hand shake reveals
When you
Speak up once again
Expose the secret deals
And the power it conceals
When you
Speak
out


Enmity endures
Speaking truth inures
Establishment demurs
Hearing truth procures
While enmity endures
Expose provocateurs
Cultural overtures
Minister abjures
Authority assures
Still enmity endures

When you
Speak out about them
The ranks empty
The Secret hand shake fails
When you
Speak up once again
Restore balance to the scales
Justice peeks through the veil
When you
Speak
out
Speak
out
Speak
out
Speak

Since French was used for the title, (though riposte is also part of the English language), I thought I'd provide a translation to match.

L’in incomprétent perdure
Alors que la douleur s’assure
La victime s’insurge
Et l’avarice procure
Alors que l’in in incomprédation perdure
Agent provocateurs
Ouvertures crassantes
Abjures historiennes
L’autorité assure
L’in in incomprédation perdure encore

Lorsque vous
Parlez-en
Les rangs se rapprochent
et le tremblement de la main prévaut
Lorsque vous
Exprimez-vous une fois de plus
La pointe des empales de puissance
Voler du souffle pendant que vous inspirez
Lorsque vous
parler
dehors

L’espoir perdure
L’expérience s’assure
L’agresseur s’en agache
Et le courage procure
Alors que l’in in incomprédation perdure
Les provocateurs de la vérité
Ouvertures de paiement
Abjures de magistrat
La solidarité assure
L’in in incomprédation perdure encore

Lorsque vous
Parlez-en
Les rangs minces et
le tremblement de la main révèle
Lorsque vous
Exprimez-vous une fois de plus
Exposer les transactions secrètes
Et le pouvoir qu’il cache
Lorsque vous
parler
dehors

L’in incomprétent perdure
Dire la vérité s’assure
L’établissement s’en a-t-il
Entendre la vérité procure
Alors que l’in in incomprédation perdure
Exposer les provocateurs
Ouvertures culturelles
Le ministre abjures
L’autorité assure
L’in in incomprédation perdure encore

Lorsque vous
Parlez-en
Les rangs vides
Le shake de main secret échoue
Lorsque vous
Exprimez-vous une fois de plus
Rétablir l’équilibre aux balances
La justice jette un coup d’œil à travers le voile
Lorsque vous
parler
dehors
parler
dehors
parler
dehors
parler

Vijandschap houdt stand Terwijl pijn Het slachtoffer demurs En hebzucht koopt Terwijl vijandschap blijft bestaan Agent provocateurs Groezelige ouvertures Historicus abjures Autoriteit verzekert Nog steeds vijandschap blijft bestaan

Wanneer u Spreek over hen De rangen sluiten en de handschudden overheerst Wanneer u Spreek nog eens. De piek van machtsimpales Adem stelen terwijl je inademt Wanneer u spreken buiten

Hoop blijft bestaan Ervaring met verzekeren Agressor demurs En moed verwerft Terwijl vijandschap blijft bestaan De provocateurs van de waarheid Payoff ouvertures Magistraat abjures Solidariteit verzekert Nog steeds vijandschap blijft bestaan

Wanneer u Spreek over hen De rangen dun en de hand schudden onthult Wanneer u Spreek nog eens. Leg de geheime deals bloot En de kracht die het verbergt. Wanneer u spreken buiten

Vijandschap houdt stand Sprekende waarheid verzekert Vestiging demurs Het horen van waarheid verkrijgt Terwijl vijandschap blijft bestaan Provocateurs blootstellen Culturele ouvertures Minister abjures Autoriteit verzekert Nog steeds vijandschap blijft bestaan

Wanneer u Spreek over hen De rangen leeg De Geheime handschudden faalt Wanneer u Spreek nog eens. Balans herstellen naar de weegschaal Justitie gluurt door de sluier Wanneer u spreken buiten spreken buiten spreken buiten spreken


This track took some time to come to light as I continued to annoy Scott. The poor chap would produce a master and the clarity of that would allow me to hear a click, breath, grunt, string scrape etc. that I hadn't previously and I'd ask for a revision after I'd addressed the perceived problem. I'm an annoying old man, I know.
Your comments, suggestions and recommendations are welcome and may well be attempted.

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This is a great collaboration. My only problem was hearing the lyrics. IHMO I believe they should be more up front. This is just my opinion and others may or may not agree.


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Hi Ray, Scott and Robbert,

I heard your wonderful song. At first I would describe it as some kind of epos about getting an answer to what you are not allowed to say. or something like that. But the word 'epos' is not the proper word. Robert can give me a hand on a synonym I bet.
At first something technically about the mix. I don't hear cracs, hisses or whatever Ray hears / heard, but what Mario said was what I thought. The words cannot be heard well enough, while they are very much worth listening to. So put op their volume, I would say.

I really liked the song, even though it is haunting in a way. Well, but French like that...
As Dutch people.

The leadguitar worked out wonderful in this song. It supported the vocals very well. At least, that is what I think.
So, no wonder I enjoyed it. Listened severall times to it, but with the lyrics at hand and (lot of times) Google translate (not for that French language).

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Well, Mr Cochrane you did not mention your vocals in the post but they work very well weaving in/out with Robert. And your bass and guitar performances provide the glue for a great mix.
Scott's guitar is, as always, excellent and those wahs are extra cool.

Endures, inures, demurs, procures, endures, provocateurs, overtures, abjures, assures and endures. Great! Cool the way you used those rhymes for three different statements in the verses.

We think the vocals fit well in the mix. The entire production has a very effective layered feel and all the vocals have a good space in that.

Kudos to Scott re the mix/mastering.

It all yields an epic soundstage!

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Man, you guys sure have fun --audibly apparent. This is quite an outstanding collab. At first I agreed with Mario in that the vocal could be more up front, but as the song progressed the vocal sounded mysterious and even hypnotic, which seemed perfect for the song. So well done, Robert. The lyrics are really cool:
"When you
Speak out about them
The ranks close
and the hand shake prevails
When you
Speak up once again
The spike of power impales
Stealing breath as you inhale
When you
Speak
out"
Dang, that's good. Scott, your guitar playing is as always very engaging. I love your taste for the song. Ray, what can I say? You are that favorite mentor I've never actually met, but your influence is HUGE.


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Ray, Scott, Robert, Spirit Level!!

Awesome Music. Y'all have certainly "found your sound"!!! The band has evolved to be a truly cohesive unit.

An excellent Dramatic Rock write. Robert at his best!

Awesome vocal. Easy to think (at first) that it needs to "come up in the mix", but it doesn't. It sits perfectly. Careful listening allows every word to come through. Mixed perfectly for the style.

In fact, the whole mix is REALLY well done. The balance is superb. Drums sound great. Ray's bass is punchy and clear and perfectly Bass-y. Scott's guitar shines! Everything about this WORKS!!

Great job. Y'all are on fire! (on my 4th listen! - that says it all...)

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Very trippy. Cool, swirling sounds. Great mix. Everyone hits their marks, as is par for the course with you guys. A 1984 claustrophobic feel to it, which I think the message conveys, if I am hearing it correctly. Good use of BIAB too. Good job!


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
This is a great collaboration. My only problem was hearing the lyrics. IHMO I believe they should be more up front. This is just my opinion and others may or may not agree.

Thanks Mario,
my only problem was hearing my voice.
The vocal level is well up on where it would be by my preferences but , even so, a vocal sitting on top of this mix would seem weird to me.

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Originally Posted By: Birchwood
Hi Ray, Scott and Robbert,
I heard your wonderful song. At first I would describe it as some kind of epos about getting an answer to what you are not allowed to say. or something like that. But the word 'epos' is not the proper word. Robert can give me a hand on a synonym I bet.
At first something technically about the mix. I don't hear cracs, hisses or whatever Ray hears / heard, but what Mario said was what I thought. The words cannot be heard well enough, while they are very much worth listening to. So put op their volume, I would say.
I really liked the song, even though it is haunting in a way. Well, but French like that...
As Dutch people.
The leadguitar worked out wonderful in this song. It supported the vocals very well. At least, that is what I think.
So, no wonder I enjoyed it. Listened severall times to it, but with the lyrics at hand and (lot of times) Google translate (not for that French language).
Hans

Hans,
thanks.
Connected epic poems on an heroic theme - well stanzas describing a modern malaise and how it is being dealt with perhaps.
Yes, Scott had ample opportunity to stretch his wings and he did so wonderfully. The lead links sections and provides fabulous melodic phrases.
I dropped in a little of the Dutch translation for you.

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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Well, Mr Cochrane you did not mention your vocals in the post but they work very well weaving in/out with Robert. And your bass and guitar performances provide the glue for a great mix.
Scott's guitar is, as always, excellent and those wahs are extra cool.
Endures, inures, demurs, procures, endures, provocateurs, overtures, abjures, assures and endures. Great! Cool the way you used those rhymes for three different statements in the verses.
We think the vocals fit well in the mix. The entire production has a very effective layered feel and all the vocals have a good space in that.
Kudos to Scott re the mix/mastering.
It all yields an epic soundstage!
J&B

Thank you J&B,
My parts are just that - parts of the whole.
Scott's axe wielding harmed no trees but certainly built a landscape in the song.
Robert's clear voice really suits the declamatory verses.
Thank you very much for your kind words.


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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Man, you guys sure have fun --audibly apparent. This is quite an outstanding collab. At first I agreed with Mario in that the vocal could be more up front, but as the song progressed the vocal sounded mysterious and even hypnotic, which seemed perfect for the song. So well done, Robert. The lyrics are really cool:
Dang, that's good. Scott, your guitar playing is as always very engaging. I love your taste for the song. Ray, what can I say? You are that favorite mentor I've never actually met, but your influence is HUGE.

Hello Marty & thanks.
This was a pretty easy process of recording except when I repeatedly stalled things by hearing stuff that no one else seemed to notice and then spent time "fixing".
I'm glad you liked the lyrics, the verses are set up, through the repetition, to have a drone like effect.
Thanks again.


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Ray, Scott, Robert, Spirit Level!!
Awesome Music. Y'all have certainly "found your sound"!!! The band has evolved to be a truly cohesive unit.
An excellent Dramatic Rock write. Robert at his best!
Awesome vocal. Easy to think (at first) that it needs to "come up in the mix", but it doesn't. It sits perfectly. Careful listening allows every word to come through. Mixed perfectly for the style.
In fact, the whole mix is REALLY well done. The balance is superb. Drums sound great. Ray's bass is punchy and clear and perfectly Bass-y. Scott's guitar shines! Everything about this WORKS!!
Great job. Y'all are on fire! (on my 4th listen! - that says it all...)
fj

FJ,
Thank you. I'm sure I speak for Scott & Robert in saying ta muchly for the glowing review.


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Originally Posted By: jptjptjpt
Very trippy. Cool, swirling sounds. Great mix. Everyone hits their marks, as is par for the course with you guys. A 1984 claustrophobic feel to it, which I think the message conveys, if I am hearing it correctly. Good use of BIAB too. Good job!

jptX3,
You read it well but the dystopia is real and current.
Yes BIAB was a crucial writing tool and the drum track glues everything really well.
Scott & Robert really hit their straps, don't they?
Thanks.

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Thanks everyone for the awesome comments. This was a very cool project to work on. To me it felt like multiple stories happening at the same time. Overtime they all came together and developed into this cool song. Ray worked very hard and did an excellent job on the mix. I think Robert and Ray both did an excellent job on the vocals. So glad you liked the guitar parts. Your comments are very much appreciated


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Hi Rayc,

From the intro to the end, the beautiful guitar playing commands attention. The voice singing the lyrics has an intonation that blends in perfectly with the musical arrangement. The bass playing is also interesting. On the other hand, well-written lyrics require proofreading to fully understand the theme and meaning of the words that we wanted to breathe into them. It's a excellent team effort. Well done.

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Hi SL!
Congrats on fantastic collaboration! A bit on the dark side, but I believe that was the message intended. Surreal and unexpected music. Cool Ray & Robert vocal play. I liked wah opening and solo. Arrangement is complex, but listens well with help of up & up progression. Excellent teamwork! Thank you for sharing.

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Spirit Level

Really enjoyed the interplay between band members.

Everyone played their part and the song was complex but engaging.

I liked it.

Peter

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Vraiment apprécié l'interaction entre les membres du groupe.

Tout le monde a joué son rôle et la chanson était complexe mais engageante.

Je l'ai aimé.

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thanks.
Connected epic poems on an heroic theme - well stanzas describing a modern malaise and how it is being dealt with perhaps.
Yes, Scott had ample opportunity to stretch his wings and he did so wonderfully. The lead links sections and provides fabulous melodic phrases.
I dropped in a little of the Dutch translation for you. [/quote]

Hi Ray, where is that translation? I searched in every post. I need it!!

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Originally Posted By: Birchwood


Hi Ray, where is that translation? I searched in every post. I need it!!

Hans


It's geographically flipped...under the French... though not a new Rampjaar.


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Are you sure? Not a new Rampjaar? What about corona and Delta?
In Une riposte it was all in...


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Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.

Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.

Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!

And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.

The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

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