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Just released and a nice tutorial for newcomers to BIAB.
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Studio wiz Eli Krantzberg presents a comprehensive set of Band-in-the-Box video tutorials! If you're looking for a one-stop shop to turn your raw song ideas into complete, fleshed out arrangements, this is the video series for you. Eli takes you through the software's extensive feature set, concentrating on the key elements geared toward songwriters, and demonstrates how to build a finished song from even the humblest beginnings. These videos are for new Band-in-a-Box users.
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Creating a Melody (07:25) - In this first video, use the Band-in-a-Box Melodist function to create a melodic idea for a chord progression and arrangement in a DAW.
Exploring the Melodist Maker (10:26) - Learn to use the Melodist Maker to create a custom Melodist and hear how it interacts with different styles. Three separate melodies are generated and brought into the DAW, where they're edited together to create a single, unified melody that matches the chords and arrangement.
Using the Chord Wizard (07:31) - Next, discover the Band-in-a-Box Audio Chord Wizard and hear how it's used to generate chords and tracks supporting a melodic vocal idea for a song chorus.
Creating Harmonies (07:15) - Explore Band-in-a-Box's ability to generate doubling and harmony parts from existing audio. Hear examples on vocals and guitar!
Creating a Guitar Part (07:27) - Learn how the Band-in-a-Box MultiRiff feature is used to create multiple variations of a guitar part - based on your chord progression and rhythms - with custom shots and pushes.
Creating Better Harmonies (07:40) - In this video, discover Band-in-a-Box's advanced harmonizing options, including the ability to export MIDI conversions alongside the generated audio.
Creating a Piano Part (08:19) - Learn how to have Band-in-a-Box create a fully fleshed out piano part based on your original simple chords, in your choice of musical styles, using RealTracks.
Creating an Arrangement (10:36) - See how the Auto Generate Chord Substitutions and Auto Generate Chord Reharmonization functions can be used to reinvigorate a simple melody, with examples in various styles.
Creating a Solo (11:24) - Next, explore the Band-in-a-Box Soloist Maker and its ability to custom design solos and fill lines.
Creating an Intro (08:50) - Hear the Band-in-a-Box's intro generating feature in action as it's used to create inspiring intros to match specific styles and chord progressions.
Creating a Chorus (06:31) - In this video, see the Band-in-a-Box automatic generation feature in action, creating a chorus that harmonically and stylistically matches the preceding verses.
Generating Random Ideas (05:47) - Finally, learn how Band-in-a-Box is used to generate random ideas based on your user input. Individual parts from multiple ideas can be used either independently or in combination as the basis for songwriting inspiration!
I like Eli's style and he certainly shows every aspect of each process. I had a gentle moan to Groove3 a few months ago that they were not updating the videos about BIAB and they certainly seem to have taken it onboard!
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Sounds great, is there a link?
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https://www.groove3.com/tutorials/Songwriting-with-Band-in-a-BoxI have not yet watched any of the video I've been a Groove3 annual subscriber for about 3 years now. $100/year +-. Pretty good value for me. A world of musical subjects available for one price. Lots of stuff on my DAW of preference (Logic Pro). A fair amount of other stuff related to my instrument (guitar). Eli Krantzberg is a good instructor. He does a bunch of Logic Videos. He also has a keyboard based Jazz Harmony video that is exceptional for understanding the subject. All of them available through Groove3.
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I watched a couple of the videos from the series this morning.
Video 1 Creating a Melody and Video 10 Creating an intro.
My initial reactions
Eli moves quickly through the material. Pay attention.
He teaches with both BIAB and his DAW (Logic). If you use Logic you will likely pick up some extra info from this.
The project is what you would expect from Eli Krantzberg. Professionally done and comprehensive. Good work
Admittedly I watched about 10% of the material.
Someone else may do a more exhaustive review. Truth is, these features are not part of BIAB that I use (at least not yet). I may use the Intro feature in the future.
Likely I'll watch all of them and see what Logic tricks I come up with.
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There are a couple of reasons I prefer to purchase and download videos from Groove3 versus using Groove3's subscription service. Having said that, it's great that Groove3 offers both options.
Reason 1 is I prefer to purchase versus rent videos. I've purchased four video tutorial series from Groove3.
Reason 2 is I can view my videos on offline smart devices. I have a smart phone and an e-reader that are video capable but do not have online capability. The videos are loaded on each device and I watch the videos whenever I want to.
I realize everyone's experience is different so it's nice that Groove3 offers both payment options.
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I went through the Song Writing tutorial by Eli and reckon I’ve learnt more about BIAB than in many other tutorials I’ve watched. Going through this also got me to go back to the PG Videos and try stuff I did not know was available really. Methods to achieve additional bits in songs that are needed.
I recommend this video series. There are many ways to access Groove 3 including purchasing a video as Jim says. There is also a $15 for a months access to all the site and a yearly access. From my perspective a $15 look for a month then make up your mind on what you need is a good way to go.
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FYI: I've purchased the Band-in-a-Box Explained video tutorial in the past and purchased the Songwriting with Band-in-a-Box a few days ago.
For those that like to watch their money, Groove3 is having a sale until the end of the month.
The Songwriting tutorial has exposed me to numerous tools I've not explored. I believe learning to use some of the tools and adding them to my workflow will add some variety and complexity to my music.
The Songwriting tutorial is based on the Mac program so Windows users will need to determine how to access the tools in the Windows version of Band-in-a-Box. Also, support files are available but, for the most part, they are of no use to Windows users so I deleted the support files.
Once again PatrickS, thank you for alerting us to the new Groove3 BiaB video tutorial.
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I want to thank everyone on this thread -- and PatrickS, in particular -- for bringing Groove3 to my attention.
All I can say is: Wow. I learned so much from the Getting Started series, and now I'm about to begin the Songwriting course.
I had never heard of Groove3 before, but thank goodness I found it. What a tremendous resource!
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I can second that. Never heard of Groove 3 before, I will certainly be making the most of their video series.
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Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
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We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
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Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
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We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
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We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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