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Gordon,

I've tried downloading the song file multiple times and it keeps downloading as "17714.txt". I rename the file to "Love Me or Leave Me.MGU" but the file will not open for me in Band-in-a-Box.


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Gordon,

I've tried downloading the song file multiple times and it keeps downloading as "17714.txt". I rename the file to "Love Me or Leave Me.MGU" but the file will not open for me in Band-in-a-Box.


Curious ... renaming worked for me other than that I chose to rename as LoveMeOrLeaveMe.MGU

I imagine that the website perhaps also doesn't handle spaces in filenames. I have to say I ususally use underscore instead of space for similar reasons.

Hopefully this one will behave...


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Gordon,

I've tried downloading the song file multiple times and it keeps downloading as "17714.txt". I rename the file to "Love Me or Leave Me.MGU" but the file will not open for me in Band-in-a-Box.


I renamed as 17714.mgu and it opened in BIAB fine.

Oh, by the way that Midi Melody Instrument is still messed up? Didn't you get that fixed by now? crazy


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Ah ... the plot thickens.

There's a solo track that claims at the start to be an electric guitar (which also shows on the notation view), but the moment BIAB starts the count-in, it changes to oboe and _that_ track is the source of the vibraphone sound even though it shows oboe through the first chorus.

On the second chorus, it still shows oboe, but it plays electric guitar, through to the penultimate chorus, after which it stops playing for the final chorus when the melody returns.

OK, right ... step-editting the soloist trach shows patch change events: First Electric guitar, then immediately Vibes (which does _not_ show on the notation view), so that's where the vibraphone sound comes from. There's a later patch change also to electric guitar. I've now deleted the Vibes and the second Electric Guitar.

Now when I play, despite the patch change to Electric guitar, the soloist track changes to oboe, but does now at least play an oboe. The soloist is silent on the first chorus, but now plays second chorus to the end (though I've now reduced the number of choruses from 6 to 3). No electric guitar. Next I changed the soloist track via the mixer to "no MIDI patch", played a few bars, stopped, selected via the mixer MIDI Electric Guitar and now it's playing electric guitar as I would expect.

I still have no idea where the oboe came from.


Another minor oddity I note is that, after stopping play with the Pause button, I have to click twice on the Play button to get BIAB to play.


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[quote=Jim Fogle]Oh, by the way that Midi Melody Instrument is still messed up? Didn't you get that fixed by now? crazy


This is a different song from that original, which had what appeared to be the same problem. In part I was mislead by the soloist track not showing in the mixer ... Part way through I proved that the rogue instruments were not on any visible track, so I did a mixer-eye->Show Active, Hide Inactive and the soloist track appeared. OK, lesson learned there.

I also hadn't previously realised that there was a step-edit option for the Soloist track. It makes sense for it to be there, though.

This came up because on Modday I was invited to play gigs on Friday and Saturday, and this was a new song for me. I was trying to get a little practice in before the gig. Most of us have not played together since at least March last year. In the event, Friday was a bit patchy but OK, Saturday went quite well.

The problem, of course, is that I end up spending a couple of hours trying to make BIAB play the song so I can actually get in my practice. IIRC I didn't manage it with this one and just winged it. I'm an old-ish guy but a new-ish musician. I'm still learning both how to play jazz and how to make BIAB work and the songs.

Several guys in the band use BIAB, but they all have old versions. They won't buy later versions because "It does what I need and new versions usually seem to have problems". I'm getting to fully understand what they meant. I do like the newer version, especially when it works properly, but oh so many twists and turns and quirks.

FWIW, I've just re-found the Soloist dialog with the "Solo Which Choruses" options, which is obviously how the author controlled this song, and the soloist is listed as:" (170 OLDER Hampton 16thsVibes)", which is presumably where the vibraphone sound originated. I still can't find where the oboe comes from.


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