I have many realtracks but none of them seem to work for my Swedish music. I recently received a nyckelharpa and was hoping to set up some BIAB backups for the music I'm learning. Take for example the waltz, the signature is 3/4 but the pulse is not. Has anybody discovered some tracks for this kind of music. I found a Schottish and a waltz ... the waltz guitar is pretty good but I do not want the accordion.
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... I found a Schottish and a waltz ... the waltz guitar is pretty good but I do not want the accordion.
Can you just mute the accordion, or replace it with a different instrument?
Also, try searching for 'World' styles in 3/4 time. You may find something closer.
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Interesting instrument, Jim. A bit like a very complicated violin.
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If you are playing nyckelharpa I guess that are playing traditional swedish folk music for fiddle and nyckelharpa. Most of this music are based the dances polska, hambo, schottis and marches. When it comes to polska there are very many dialects depending on then local region and the feel and rythm differs with these quite a lot. Even if polska is in 3/4 time one can seldom play it with the right feel and pulse straight from the notation since it is not possible to write it down correctly in formal notation. One need to hear it from another musician who plays fiddle or nyckelharpa and who have learned it by tradition, otherwise it probably never sounds right. Once you know the tune one can have the notation as support but it does not reflect correctly how to play the music. For the same reason I don't think you will find any style in BB that could be of any use. I myself are from Sweden and play fiddle and mainly swedish traditional folk music. I only use BB for other type of music such as american bluegrass, country, rock etc.
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If one googles/bings MIDI Swedish music you will find a number of MIDI files for said music. Maybe you can find something there and DL into your DAW or BiaB?
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Thanks for the reply, I have been scouring YouTube and listening to players and tunes. I live in an area where there are NO players. My nyckelharpa is out for a bit of restoration so hope to have it back soon. Do you by chance have a website I can listen to ?? I went to Sweden two years ago to met my family that lives there. It is like an Ancestry commercial; we met online. They are second cousins so not too distant!! My grandparents came over in 1912. Thanks again. ....
There are a few sample libraries around for nyckelharpas. Sonicouture and others.
It clearly has a fair bit in common with both hurdy-gurdy and autoharp. I wonder which is the love child of which.
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Here's a technical suggestion. It takes some time, but it well may work for you, especially given shlind's comment above.
Load up a 4/4 style...any style, even a midi style.
Set up an 8 bar test progression.
Use "bar settings" to change the number of beats to "3" in all the bars. What this will do is "lop off" the last beat of each measure. You may want to mute out all the tracks except for drums and bass, but if your rhythm ear is good and can ignore some instruments, leave them all visible/audible.
Then you can go to style picker and audition styles to play your chord sheet. No reason to audition 3/4 styles with this method, but you should try out a few in all feels (even 8 and 16, and swing 8 and 16) as well as in different genres. Rock and modern pop styles may accent the 2 and 4, but since there is no "four" on your chord sheet, the main accent heard will be on the 2 of three. That's just an example.
Try country, folk, rock, pop, jazz and world styles. Instrumentation can be changed...you're listening mostly for the "pulse". Strange as it may sound, even funk (with it's heavy emphasis on ONE) might be useful.
This is not Swedish music, but will give you an example of what is possible with this method. Maybe the accordion helps too? Here I move from 4/4 to 3/4 and back regularly. But it's all the same "style" and you'll hear the difference, I hope.
Most people learn or get started from a more experienced player that know the tradition and how it should sound and there are many people that play in “Spelmanslag” (lot of performances on YT ). Nyckelharpa players often play mixed together with fiddlers.
If you are on your own one way to learn could be to: Try and find a good representation of the tune to listen to with the right feel (either from CD or YouTube or other).
There are so many different versions out there sounding very different and the tricky bit is to find a version that has the feel and sound one is looking for.
“Spelmanslag” often play a very good representation of the traditional tunes but it can be a very massive sound and a bit difficult to pick out the tune from it. It would probably be more easy if one could find a version of the tune from a good solo fiddler or Nyckelharpa player https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnMRqhWFyyg
Play the tune repeatedly on and on for several days to get the feel of the song into the head and sleep on it (it matures during night). Then try to pick out the notes by ear little bit at a time (as support one can try write down the letters for the notes in sequence on a paper only the letters or names or fingering)… .. or try to find a notation with the basic melody in the same key just to try to find most of the notes in the basic melody. Then try to adjust it bit by bit to match the audio version of the song.
There are some good software available that can slow down music(audio and video and keep the pitch with very good quality. I use a software from https://www.seventhstring.com/ called “Transcribe” (It might be a bit tricky to install). Thera are other slow downer software around but I find that Transcribe has far most the best “High Fidelity” which makes it so much easier to hear the notes as well as good video slow down.
Thanks .. discovered Emily and she is terrific. I made my first performance with the nyckelharpa with a violinist, and concertina it went very well!
I don't play a lot of Swedish music as there are no others around interested (but I'm working on that ) but I do take it to my local Celtic jam on Mondays. They love it. In fact, at my recent concert, we actually played some Irish tunes on which I played the NKH. Thanks for all the feedback and info! V
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