My point is that there are loads of money spent by the US to protect allied interests throughout the Western world that would more than enough pay for the kinds of nationalized health care available elsewhere in the western world. Those nationalized health plans are basically subsidized by the US military spending - like it or not. There's been plenty of fingerpointing at the US as to why they don't have a functioning nationalized health care system, while taking advantage of the same in part due to US action, seems two-faced to me.

This isn't to say the US doesn't appear as a bully in the world arena, either by reality or media portrayal or both. Also this isn't to say that I'm not a fan of Canada, nor their soldiers' bravery. I've lived closer to Canada and visited it probably more than any non-Canadian citizen on this forum except for rharv. I love Canada. My favorite fish 'n chips place is the Wharf in Sarnia, ONT. It's just tiring for me to hear about how bad we are for following Jeffersonian politics with actual states rights, with local governance having the rule, etc.

The Iraq war was and always will be about oil and who controls it. Of course, our politicians will never admit that. But I find it very interesting that Germany, France and China had the ink dry on their deals with Saddam Hussein once the UN embargo was to have been lifted. They crowed the loudest when the US went and took the oil. Ideology is far down the list. The cost of fuel to Canada would be much higher had this not taken place.

The real war should be reduction of our dependence on foreign oil. That's where the long term end-game money should be spent IMO.

Last edited by rockstar_not; 03/23/10 03:35 PM.