OK so all is not well with BiaB, but it does have redeeming features Simon. I will just have to sit and wait for tha fault finding team to retify. Thanks for putting up with my short fuse...still not happy but will give you all the benifit of the doubt.
Well, I guess you "will just have sit and wait" while I, and many others continue to use, and enjoy this less than perfect software...
OK so all is not well with BiaB, but it does have redeeming features Simon. I will just have to sit and wait for tha fault finding team to retify. Thanks for putting up with my short fuse...still not happy but will give you all the benifit of the doubt.
Thanks WineRider, we appreciate your patience.
Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I remain completely lost here on what exactly the problem is? Is there something that is stopping you from making music?
WineRider's original issue was that, starting with build 840, his guitar tuner stopped working. This is something that at least one other person has reported, however from testing in-house none of us are experiencing this issue. After some troubleshooting, the other user reported that they plugged their guitar into input 2 of their interface and the tuner didn't work, but when plugged into input 1 it worked - perhaps this could help WineRider?
WineRider - could you provide us with the following information:
Please right click on the Start menu and choose Run, then enter in winver and press enter. What version number and build number are showing here? The latest version is 21H1 - recent versions include 20H2, 2004, 1909, 1903...
What are your computer specs - CPU type, amount of RAM, etc.
What type of audio interface are you using?
Here are a few things to try:
Plug into a different input on your interface - Input 1 should work, while others may not.
Try switching audio driver type in BIAB: Go to Options > Preferences > Audio, and tell us what is selected for Audio Driver Type, then try switching between the options there.
Try resetting BIAB to default settings: Go to Options > Return To Factory Settings. If it asks you to choose between MOST or ALL, choose MOST.
Open your BB folder, then go to Data/Backup/Builds - in here you'll find backed up EXE files from any updates you've had installed. Try copying bbw64_2021.0.0.838.exe into your BB folder then run it, and see if the tuner works there.
Tout ça pour ça? Mais il existe des dizaines de tuners gratuits tous plus beaux les uns que les autres!
True, though ours is built in to BIAB, so why not use it?
Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Oui, difficile à croire. En fait, ce n'est probablement pas lié au BIAB mais c'est une fonction du périphérique audio !
Most likely. The only other user who reported having this problem solved it by changing which input he was using. As it's not at all a widespread issue, we can only speculate what the issue is for WineRider. He's tried switching audio device driver types as well as resetting BIAB, none of which helped.
Now WineRider has decided to throw in the towel and wait to see if a future update solves the issue for him, so I suppose that's case closed for this thread.
[quote=Marco76]Tout ça pour ça? Mais il existe des dizaines de tuners gratuits tous plus beaux les uns que les autres!
True, though ours is built in to BIAB, so why not use it?
Yes Simon you are right. I just used it for the first time and it works great. I just think the original post is a bit harsh for a secondary function. Congratulations to PG Music.
True, though ours is built in to BIAB, so why not use it?
But I have to wonder "Why?"
Is this not just a symptom of trying to put everything including the kitchen sink and a pizza oven into one package, thereby making it more complex to maintain?
I often puzzle over the logic of ordinary tracks and "utility tracks". Why on earth are they not all ordinary tracks?
I can certainly see the logic of separating out audio from MIDI, but why not do exactly the same thing for all tracks?
"Simplicate and add more lightness." -- Gordon Hooton, Lotus Cars.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
"Simplicate and add more lightness." -- Gordon Hooton, Lotus Cars.
David St. Hubbins: It’s such a fine line between stupid and.. Nigel Tufnel: clever. It’s just that little turn-about.. Derek Smalls (?): a reversal of roles.
Is this not just a symptom of trying to put everything including the kitchen sink and a pizza oven into one package, thereby making it more complex to maintain?
I often puzzle over the logic of ordinary tracks and "utility tracks". Why on earth are they not all ordinary tracks?
I can certainly see the logic of separating out audio from MIDI, but why not do exactly the same thing for all tracks?
"Simplicate and add more lightness." -- Gordon Hooton, Lotus Cars.
I completely agree with you.
Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
True, though ours is built in to BIAB, so why not use it?
But I have to wonder "Why?"
Is this not just a symptom of trying to put everything including the kitchen sink and a pizza oven into one package, thereby making it more complex to maintain?
I often puzzle over the logic of ordinary tracks and "utility tracks". Why on earth are they not all ordinary tracks?
I can certainly see the logic of separating out audio from MIDI, but why not do exactly the same thing for all tracks?
"Simplicate and add more lightness." -- Gordon Hooton, Lotus Cars.
I also agree with you 100%! The product suffers from years of adding fluffy features that don't improve the core genius that is this software. RealTracks are BRILLIANT. I SIMPLY CANNOT SHOUT THAT LOUD ENOUGH! But "49 new feature-itis" makes it increasingly harder and way less enjoyable to use this software. Frustration builds as new features with true potential like additional mixer tracks are delivered with big limitations. (And then comes the inevitable conversation about maybe making them into full featured tracks in the next paid upgrade! Sheesh! More mixer tracks was a great idea but finish them before releasing them!) In my time here I've seen new features with great potential seemingly unfinished or at least never fully developed (UserTracks.) And I've seen features added that seem like they belong in a separate utility program or maybe a free website (song title generator.)
I understand marketing and feeling the need to have something Really Big to use in the campaigns. But this software and RealTracks IS TRULY AWESOME AND A REALLY BIG DEAL! I hope PGM will start to focus exclusively on features that directly enhance and improve on this major strength of the program.
New RealTracks in modern music styles by NEW musicians? EXCELLENT ADDITION!
More Brent Mason RealTracks? Nope. He is amazing but we already have plenty, thank you very much.
More full function mixer tracks? EXCELLENT ADDITION!
Utility tracks that cannot work like existing tracks? Nope. That's an unfinished feature IMHO.
DAW Mode? Nope. It is 2021. Your customers know how to resize a window and drag things to their DAW. No need for a non-standard window mode feature that confuses everyone.
Better search tools for RealTracks? EXCELLENT ADDITION!
Guitar tuner? Nope. I have a drawer full of them and 100s of websites and mobile phone apps that do that better.
Greatly improved tool for finding styles that match a song/artist? EXCELLENT ADDITION! So many times I'll type in an artist/song and get hundreds of suggestions, none of which sound even remotely like the artist/song.
Song title generator? Nope. Again, so many free resources out there that this is just not needed in BIAB.
I am honestly not trying to be overly critical or picky. Just sharing a few of the frustrations of using this product. And honestly hoping PGM will dedicate their future upgrade efforts to the parts that make this software TRULY GREAT!
The product suffers from years of adding fluffy features that don't improve the core genius that is this software. RealTracks are BRILLIANT. I SIMPLY CANNOT SHOUT THAT LOUD ENOUGH! But "49 new feature-itis" makes it increasingly harder and way less enjoyable to use this software.
I all too frequently vent here some of my frustration with BiaB, but I must concur. This is a great tool. However it often makes my head hurt.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
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