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I would be interested to know what system you listen to Soundcloud on. Computer speakers? Home stereo system? Phone? Bluetooth? Earbuds?

We all spend hours with Ozone, Normalization, LUFS, etc. to make a song sound good on streaming, and it would be beneficial to know what media we're actually mixing/mastering for.

As for me, Home Stereo.


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For a mix, all of those you listed, plus a car and a boom box.

For playing, 8” powered monitors.

For composing, see my specs below.


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The same Adam monitors I record with and burn a CD and play it in my Nissan Titan Truck which has a good stereo system.


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I usually listen to Soundcloud (and I don't listen much) on my computer, but my computer runs a Focusrite 2i4 interface and KRK Rokit5 monitors as speakers. I rarely listen to music unless I have to learn something.

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To answer specifically:

We listen to SC almost exclusively on our KRK monitors as that is when we are at the Mac commenting at the User Showcase Forum.

To answer broadly:

- Polk Audio Towers w/ Yamaha sub (living room)
- Apple HomePod
- Apple AirPods
- Subaru w/ Harmon Kardon system including a sub


Music of multiple genres is a HUGE part of our life and is playing in the house or in the vehicle nearly all the time.
In the evenings we typically watch a series episode and then head to YouTube to watch our fav musicians and search for interesting new artists. But to protect what remains of my hearing I monitor our listening environments to keep it at <80 DB's. My Apple Watch is configured to warn me if that level is exceeded.

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I listen to Soundcloud through my Internet computer's Realtek chip and my M-Audio near field monitors.


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RE....MONITORS.
(NOTE...dont slam me for my views. they come from spending many many frustrating years on the question of best monitors to use....and monitors drive me nuts...you name it...ive tried it over the years from big soffit monsters in big studios down to junk.)

i use allsorts. good hphones/bad hphones/good spkrs/bad spkrs/home type speakers.
i'm currently useing some thonet/vader spkrs plus sennheiser higher end in ear buds....
until i decide whether to buy say the adams which i really like, but then when i feel like spending the money on adams...i think back to lots of discussions i once had with good engineers in big studios re monitors...viz.
1. why do the "classic hits" of the past that didnt use any of todays speaker tech sound so good even on my baby tv speakers ?
2. are we fooling ourselves spending lots of moolah on monitors ?
3. why do mixes done on big studio monsters sometimes not translate ? happened more than once to me.
4. given that lots of people in the world listen on junk, and given that a musician is lucky to make even a few buks monthly off of streaming...is the spend on hi end spkrs worth it ?

imho...in summary...the topic doesnt have a perfect solution....much as i like the adams.
(i also like the tannoy dual concentric speakers, but for some reason i cant put my finger on...not the krk's. if really pushed for buks i always suggest demoing 100 buk edifiers.).

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Hey Bob,

Phone with cheap tiny Panasonic headphones (can't stand earbuds).
If I'm in the "studio" room -
Motu interface with Audio Technica headphones
Motu interface with JBL LSR308 monitors.

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For Soundcloud, a half-decent external powered stereo speaker system with separate bass module connected to the computer audio. Not terrible. Probably not fantastic either, but it does the job adequately.


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A pair of Samson Near Field Monitors or the headphone.... but none of that really matters because the Lively Hearing Aids do all the sound coloring. Is it just me?? crazy


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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
RE....MONITORS.
(NOTE...dont slam me for my views. they come from spending many many frustrating years on the question of best monitors to use....and monitors drive me nuts...you name it...ive tried it over the years from big soffit monsters in big studios down to junk.)

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No I am not going to slam you on your views and in fact I agree with most of them.

When I purchased my SP-5B monitors they were around $200 USD for the pair. At that time they were low end cost wise. I use them for listening and composing because they are all I need.

I have a close friend whom uses his inexpensive home stereo system for everything, listening, composing, and as an amp for his keyboards. He knows how to adjust his system for each of the above. His songs rival anyone with expensive audio monitors IMHO.

I have another friend whom spent a fortune on an audiophile stereo system, everything was top shelf. All he listens to is metal, hard rock, and grunge!

Those classic hits are so great because they were done live and recorded via tape. A lot of today's music that is recorded one track at a time, this includes my music, looses that live feeling, as most all of the songs energy is lost. YMMV


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I don't live out in the country any longer so I can not get away with loud anything. In my first post I did not even think about headphones.

Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 OHM. I have a Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250 OHM also but do not like the sound. I am sure there must be better headsets now days but I have spent thousands of hours with 770 on my head to the extent there are depressions in my head where they push on my glasses...lol

I have semi junk speakers on the stereo system down stairs which I used mostly for the TV audio. I have had in mind to build some arcane type of speakers but more as a fun electronics project that a audiophile issue. I have built dozens of tube guitar amps but never got around to building a high end tube stereo amp.

I have hundreds of CDs and cassette tapes but listen to stuff on youtube more often than not. Unlike many or even most musically inclined people I do not listen to music in my car or while I work. It is too distracting because I am always analyzing what I hear. What key was that in? What is the chord progression? What did the lyrics mean?

Some of what I do is just like Pavlovs's dog. The bell rings and....

I am like many musicians and jet pilots, hearing loss at certain frequency which has something to do with the choice of speakers and headphones.

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For me, it's either one or the other..... Altec Lansing computer speakers.... they're cheap ones.... OR.... my decent quality noise canceling ear buds.


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Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 OHM, All day, any day and I've tried a load of top headphones.

Need a good amp to drive them tho !!.


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For me, there are a few places and systems I listen to music:

My home stereo, consisting of a nice pair of mid 70's Technics "Linear phase" speakers driven by an Onkyo receiver. Often with a Polk sub, and occasionally with the full surround system that adds a nice Yamaha centre and Paradigm rears (this was set up on a budget hence the mishmash of brands, but they blend together ok).

My studio, with a pair of Mackie HR824mk1's running from an RME Fireface, OR a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50x, OR the built-in speaker in my old Mac Pro or my even older iMac.

My shower, with a 4-dollar bluetooth speaker.

My desk at work, with a Focusrite 2i2 and a pair of mediocre Labtec speakers.

My girlfriends house, with a cheap Panasonic shelf system.

My car, with the worst possible stereo system (the deck sounds ok despite glitchiness, but original Pontiac speakers are terrible).

At the lake, through every teenagers and twenty-somethings Bluetooth speakers all cranked to eleven.

Everywhere else, with the speaker built into my phone.


Apart from that, I don't really listen to music much. grin


Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
1. why do the "classic hits" of the past that didnt use any of todays speaker tech sound so good even on my baby tv speakers ?
2. are we fooling ourselves spending lots of moolah on monitors ?
3. why do mixes done on big studio monsters sometimes not translate ? happened more than once to me.
4. given that lots of people in the world listen on junk, and given that a musician is lucky to make even a few buks monthly off of streaming...is the spend on hi end spkrs worth it ?


1: Nostalgia. Also because analog equipment adds distortion, noise, and nonlinearity, and the human brain likes those, but not too much of those (unless you're me).
2: Maybe. Monitors are simply supposed to be accurate rather than sounding "good" - the idea being to find faults that need correcting.
3: As with #2, but also maybe due to a bad reference track. Hard to say.
4: Are hobbies worth spending money on? I think so. If your only goal with making music is to profit, you're in the wrong business.


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