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#671454 09/03/21 06:05 PM
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Thanks, Andrew and Team at PG! Fixed my problem and I am a happy camper! smile You guys are awesome!!!

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Ninth months after the release of BIAB 2021 and we're still getting quite large bug fixes. PG Music programs are awesome but will 2022 choose reliability and long term wish list fixes over 'new features'?

Fixing the RB glitch with Izotope plugins would be at the top of my list.

The more 'new features' the more complicated BIAB gets and - or so it seems - the more bug fixes we need.

Still, BIAB and RB are wonderful for producing my kind of music.

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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
Ninth months after the release of BIAB 2021 and we're still getting quite large bug fixes. PG Music programs are awesome but will 2022 choose reliability and long term wish list fixes over 'new features'?
There are more than 430 fixes since 2021 was released. Several of us are working separately to try to get that resolved with improved testing techniques. We hope that this can be successful.


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good luck VideoTrack. i'm not sure i need any new features though - others may differ. new RealTracks are enough of an incentive to upgrade for me.

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I'm certainly not referring to delivering new features, just making the existing functionality more robust, and avoiding the ongoing re-introduction of bugs that continually seems to occur.


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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
Ninth months after the release of BIAB 2021 and we're still getting quite large bug fixes. PG Music programs are awesome but will 2022 choose reliability and long term wish list fixes over 'new features'?

Fixing the RB glitch with Izotope plugins would be at the top of my list.

The more 'new features' the more complicated BIAB gets and - or so it seems - the more bug fixes we need.

Still, BIAB and RB are wonderful for producing my kind of music.


I expressed the above view in the below thread earlier in the year, and maybe just maybe hope that PG is listening. Ok just give the Utility tracks full Realtrack functionality then leave it at that.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=654016&Searchpage=1&Main=89965&Words=features&Search=true#Post654016

New Realtracks or midi styles and other add-ons a big Yes, but no more new features, that everyone is bug hunting for the greater part of the year.


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Originally Posted By: musiclover
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I expressed the above view in the below thread earlier in the year, and maybe just maybe hope that PG is listening. Ok just give the Utility tracks full Realtrack functionality then leave it at that.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=654016&Searchpage=1&Main=89965&Words=features&Search=true#Post654016

New Realtracks or midi styles and other add-ons a big Yes, but no more new features, that everyone is bug hunting for the greater part of the year.



But what if those new features included making the utility tracks like regular tracks for both RTs and MIDI? Or included time signatures other than 2/4, 3/4, or 4/4? Or streamlined the menus? Or allowed the beta testers a lot more time to report bugs?
etc etc.

Although I used BiaB in virtually every song I am getting disturbed the way they are introducing new features that are only a quarter to a half finished; features like utility tracks and the VST.

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From comments that were made earlier this year, I hope it’s a given that Utility Tracks will be improved. There were even improvements after the initial release of BIAB 2021, once people had played with it awhile. Many threads exist with solid suggestions.

My preference for BIAB 2022 would be to continue with development of new RealTracks, improve functionality of Utility Tracks, and in 2023, revise core code to fix longstanding shortcomings and prevent reintroduction of bugs. I’m fine with no other new features this time.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
... I’m fine with no other new features this time.

Yes, I'd prefer 50 bug fixes (that actually work) over 50 new features any day.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley

My preference for BIAB 2022 would be to continue with development of new RealTracks, improve functionality of Utility Tracks, and in 2023, revise core code to fix longstanding shortcomings and prevent reintroduction of bugs. I’m fine with no other new features this time.


Agree 100%. Matt!


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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
good luck VideoTrack. i'm not sure i need any new features though - others may differ. new RealTracks are enough of an incentive to upgrade for me.


... but the seemingly endless bugs and patches are a strong disincentive.

My reality over the couple of years I've been using BIAB since I last ditched it in despair, back in about 2013, is that I feel like I've expended more time and effort trying to work around bugs and/or establish the cause so they can be better fixed, than I have actually using BIAB. BIAB does a great job when it's behaving, but to this newbie second time around, it sometimes feels like darned hard work.


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