SBmix,

I appreciate your contribution to the discussion but I think you misunderstand what I'm seeking.

I have never said 'I don't like electronic timbre'. I have loads of electronic instruments and of course they feature in pop songs and should be there in contemporary styles.

The things that don't appeal to me about EDM/Dance/House are more to do with their chord progressions, structure, absence of lyrics, certain insistent rhythms etc. rather than a universal allergy on my part to 'electronic timbre'! I have nothing against the 'electronic elements' in the songs in my list (or I wouldn't have included them!)

I'm not sure what you mean by the songs in my list being "very common" pop songs? If you mean they are conventional songs (with a modern flavour), that is exactly my point.

I (and others in this thread) have said that I don't find the existing BIAB Modern Pop styles reflect the instrumental components of current mainstream pop songs. There are all sorts of 'electronic timbres', some of which fit better with more organic sounds/instruments. To me, the current Modern Pop styles feel more to the Dance/House end of that spectrum than songs like those I posted.

As I wrote in my previous post, what you describe as 'vocal design' is not something I expect from BIAB.

Thanks again for your contributions to the discussion. I hope this has answered your question towards the end of it. I welcome 'some electronic elements'... if they sound like those in mainstream contemporary pop songs!