Simon and JM.
one reason i like refurbs is i save on buying windows, plus i get a decent warranty.
also ive never had one prob ever compared to friends buying new retail pc's which often need cleaning up..
of bloat etc.

but the 11400 cpu has sorta thrown me cos...is it better
basing a pc round it, OR are the 500 buk ...........

hp z or lenovo beasts a better deal. with xeons.
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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 10/18/21 01:16 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)