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Something is seriously messed up. I have been using a workflow for years where I render individual tracks to WAV using the File -> Export Song as Audio File button. From there, I take the tracks into a DAW. I have done this workflow with nearly 100 songs in recent years. I have had no problems recently until about 3 months ago.

I am using BIAB 2021 with Windows 10. Now, in most cases when I try to render the tracks, the bass track comes out completely silent, and usually the guitar track as well. Piano and Drums always play normally.

If I render a full song mix, all the instruments play normally. And if I drag the bass or guitar into the little box that has WAV, MP3, MID, etc., it renders properly. It is only when using the File -> Export Song as Audio File button that these tracks come out silent.

I have completely reinstalled BIAB and all the styles. No good.

It seems to fail on multiple style files -- it is not just one bad style.

I tried substituting a different bass patch and it was still silent.

I created a new song file completely from scratch and it is still silent.

I don't know exactly when this went wrong. I worked on a bunch of songs from January through July of 2021. The past few months I was diverted onto some other work. I just returned to a song I had started in July and found I had generated silent tracks for bass and guitar, and never went any farther.

Since that time, I may have applied two patches to BIAB and am currently running the latest patch. There have been lots of Windows patches in that time.

Anybody have any ideas what might be going wrong here? Here is a test file that exhibits the problem on my system:


[Song] [Title test silent render]
[File test silent render.SGU]
[Key C ] [Tempo 140] [Form 1-32*3]
[.Sty _J085_TP.STY] [Style Vintage Club Jazz Ballad]
[Summary]
****** Song Summary *************
Title: test silent render
File:test silent render.SGU
Key=C , Tempo 140, Length (m:s)=2:49
No intro. 32 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 32. Repeat x3 choruses
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Style is _J085_TP.STY (Vintage Club Jazz Ballad)

RealTracks in song: 760:Bass, Acoustic, Jazz Modern Sw 140
RealTracks in style: ~~449:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Jazz Sw 140
RealTracks in style: ~~446:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Jazz Sw 140
RealTracks in style: ~~462:Trumpet, Jazz Sw 140
RealDrums [in style:JazzBrushes#1: a: Brushes b: Brushes 2 and 4

*******************
[SummaryEnd]
[Chords]
|:a) C|%|%|%| D|%|%|%|
| E|%|%|%| F|%|%|%|
| G|%|%|%| A|%|%|%|
| B|%|%|%| C|%|%|%:3X|end) C|
[ChordsEnd]
[SongEnd]

Last edited by Pumps2; 11/12/21 08:13 PM.

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This is 845 render to wav, I had to save them in a different folder to save as wma as this renders to wav first then encodes wav to wma.

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Thanks. I can't really read your screen shot, but it looks like you are using the same options as I used, and your system rendered all the tracks.

I am trying to figure out what might be wrong with my system where it renders piano and drums fine, but has the other tracks silent every time.

Last edited by Pumps2; 11/13/21 04:03 AM.

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Aaaaack. I dragged these WAVs into the DAW and they are fine. For some reason, Windows Media Player doesn't sound on those files, even though the content is there.

If I put them in Cubase, Audacity or Transcribe, they are fine.

If I try to play them with Media Player or Groove Music, Pno and Drums work but bass and guitar are silent.

So Microsoft is doing something really goofy here. I can use my regular workflow, which did not depend on Windows Media Player.


Last edited by Pumps2; 11/13/21 05:07 AM.

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Check your render bit rate. There is likely a difference between the bit rate of some of your renders versus Windows Audio default bit rate.

I'm guessing you may find some of your audio file bit rates are 32 bit.


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