Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
RealBand
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
jonel Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
I've generated my song in BiaB and imported it to RealBand. In RB I want to add a guitar track that is not present in the original style.

My understanding of this feature is that I can add any track that belongs to a new style added to the RealBand song. At least that's the way I have assumed it to work and the way it has actually worked for me in the past.

However, I now find myself in a position of where my original song was created in BiaB using all RealTracks. Now, in RB I add a new style, one with a guitar part. Now when I add a Midi Guitar track I get the message that the Guitar part is not in the current style! But it IS in the current style.


Any ideas please? Have I been using the feature incorrectly?

RealBand
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,457
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,457
How are you 'adding MIDI guitar'?

I opened a BiaB SGU file
Made sure the empty target track was MIDI
Opened Style Picker and went to a MIDI style (shown in the Set# column)
Right-click the track
Select Generate-MIDI Track-Guitar and it worked
Still had the blue BB tracks and everything

.. maybe your style has RT guitar and you are trying to generate MIDI, or (?)

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
NewMIDI_SGU_RB.jpg (141.7 KB, 74 downloads)
Last edited by rharv; 11/12/21 12:23 PM.

I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
RealBand
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,142
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,142
just imported a midi strings track to an RB song that was all RTs. followed the process rharv outlined above (which is what i do anyway) and the strings generated fine.

if that's what you are doing (and the midistyle does indeed contain a midi guitar and not an RT) i'm stumped.

RealBand
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
jonel Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
I have had this working in the past. In my current case I hadn't set the track as a midi track before the generation though and I thought that might be the case. So I went back again, set the track as midi, selected a midi style that included the acoustic guitar. Selected Generate Midi, but again got the message the style did not have a guitar part. I tried the string part for the same style and that generated OK.

The style selected was SERENITY - Serenity - Slow 16th Pop Ballad

I can generate Strings and Drums only. The other tracks report that the instrument is not in the style.

RealBand
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
jonel Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
I alos followed that same process although originally I hadn't change the new track to MIDI, but now have done this. The style is:

SERENITY - Serenity - Slow 16th Pop Ballad

I can generate the Strings and Drums part but all the others report that the part is not in the current style.

RealBand
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
jonel Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
As a follow up to my last reply: I decided to create a new project with the (SERENITY - Serenity - Slow 16th Pop Ballad) that I had added to the previous song where the guitar part was reported to be missing. This time RB had no trouble in creating the guitar midi part!

So ... going back to my previous song, could it be that the original style was all RealTracks? Because that is the only significant difference. Surely the loading of a new style will allow the generation of all the parts of that new style, even if the the prior style had all Real Tracks.

RealBand
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,970
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,970
As I read your last question I understand you are using multiple styles in a RealBand song file or sequence. Is this correct?

RealBand (RB) reserves the first eight tracks for Band-in-a-Box (BiaB) MIDI tracks. However, you can use the command to make the first eight BiaB tracks regular tracks and the tracks will become RealBand tracks.

RealBand tracks default to audio tracks. When you start a song with all RealTracks each RealTrack will occupy a RealBand audio track.

If you switch styles and the new style has one or MIDI instruments the MIDI instruments will not have a track to land on unless you have previously changed one or more audio tracks to a MIDI track.

I don't think RealBand is going to automatically change an unused audio track to a MIDI track when you change to a style that includes MIDI.


Jim Fogle - 2026 BiaB (Build 1224) RB (Build 7) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
RealBand
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
jonel Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
Hi Jim, yes, I have imported a song that was a RealTrack song in BiaB. I did use the command to make the BBtracks regular tracks (although I'm not sure of the significance of doing that in the current context). I set a new style in the RealBand song and ensured that this did have a Guitar track in it. When I tried to generate the Guitar part I was told that no such part existed in the style.

If I begin a new song in RealBand and use that same midi style, thin there is no problem in creating the Guitar part.

In the past I have used Midi styles in Biab and then imported to RB and I had no problem with generating the parts of another new midi style..

RealBand
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
jonel Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 534
Quote:
If you switch styles and the new style has one or MIDI instruments the MIDI instruments will not have a track to land on unless you have previously changed one or more audio tracks to a MIDI track.


Jim, I don't understand this or I completely miss the point about how a change of styles works in RealBand.

The way I understand this process is that when I open my MGU file that was generated in BiaB then RB will re-create the tracks as they were in BiaB. Now, when I change to another style that contains the instruments for which I want to generate I assume that:

1. Any empty non-BB track can be used to generate midi from this new style. The patterns included in the style are used to generate the notes for this track. So, as long as the style has an instrument then we can have the midi generated. Some instruments of the style WILL generate midi, but others simply report that the instrument not available in the style, despite my knowing that it does.
2. Selecting the unused track to midi prior to generation makes no difference and nor do I think it should, RB knows that midi is to be generated and so should, and does, change the track accordingly.

I started completely afresh with a new project.
My project began in BiaB with the previous style (all Real Tracks:

_INTENT R 4/4 ev16 75 Intent Americana Ballad Folk Country 85

where I added previous melody and soloist tracks

Having saved the MGU in BiaB I now open it in RealBand.

Now change to midi style Melisa2 - Melisa2 - Ev.16 Folk-Rock which hosts and Acoustic Guitar.

I do nothing about the BB tracks and leave the empty tracks at their default Audio

On the first empty Audio track I generate the Guitar part.

Well, what do you know, it created as expected!

All other tracks created with their respective mid parts also.

So, with exactly the same setup on the new song I have the whole thing working as expected.


The only problem I have now is why there was an issue in the first place because I've really changed nothing and wasted everybody's time.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window

In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:


  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics85,738
Posts795,575
Members39,945
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Diddlysquat, pun61, smitoz, Jonnyfartpants, Gengiz
39,944 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 193
Noel96 117
DC Ron 115
DrDan 105
rsdean 103
dcuny 93
Today's Birthdays
brassauditions, EddieV, glauber, Holly, MyZone1958, PLS, Tobin - PG Music Inc.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5